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| Feb27-12, 08:46 PM | #1 |
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Test Tomorrow.....Help!!!....Fermat's Little Theroem
Prove that if "p" is an odd prime, then
a) 1p-1+2p-1+.....+(p-1)p-1 "is congruent" to -1(mod p) attempt: Well I know from Fermat's little theorem, that all the constants on the left hand side will reduce to 1's: 1 + 1 + 1...........1 (is congruent to) -1 (mod p). I know there is just a small step to conclude this, but I can't figure it out. b) 1p+2p+.....+(p-1)p (congruent to) 0 (mod p) (Hint: it may be useful to show: 1+2+....+(p-1) = p(p-1) / 2 Kinda lost with this one sad thing is I got help with it today...smh. |
| Feb27-12, 08:59 PM | #2 |
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Just count the ones =)
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| Feb27-12, 09:03 PM | #3 |
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| Feb27-12, 09:04 PM | #4 |
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Test Tomorrow.....Help!!!....Fermat's Little Theroem |
| Feb27-12, 09:16 PM | #5 |
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Ok, well if I add up all the ones I would have some sort of sum 1(p-1) which would leave me with (p-1) congruent to ____ (mod p), but the only "something" i could fathom would be "1"
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| Feb27-12, 09:19 PM | #6 |
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I don't think you understand the concept of congruence. Go back to the definition. What does it mean for a to be congruent to b mod p?
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| Feb27-12, 09:22 PM | #7 |
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a = pk + b for some constant k, or p|a-b
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| Feb27-12, 09:23 PM | #8 |
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| Feb27-12, 09:27 PM | #9 |
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| Feb27-12, 09:29 PM | #10 |
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well adding -1 to 1 will give 0. But I'm not seeing it with respect to congruence. |
| Feb27-12, 09:30 PM | #11 |
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university level course..... |
| Feb27-12, 09:30 PM | #12 |
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| Feb27-12, 09:34 PM | #13 |
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as far as congruence, my understanding is this: it is the relationship between a divisor and the number being divided, in which the remainder that is obtained can be compared with another number divided by the same divisor that obtains a similar remainder.
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| Feb27-12, 09:43 PM | #14 |
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Well that's great....Just so I'm on firm ground with the question: 1 + 1 + 1...........1 (is congruent to) ______ (mod p) adding up all those one's will give me: (p-1) (congruent to) ______ (mod p) |
| Feb27-12, 09:49 PM | #15 |
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| Feb27-12, 09:54 PM | #16 |
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I think I just realized it:
So going back to the fact that I will have a sum of (p-1), p|(p-1) can be written as p(1) + (-1).....in other words, my "remainder" is -1 and so (p-1) "is congruent to" -1 (mod p) sometimes I get so possessed into thinking of the congruence as an equals sign and start carrying things over from side to side. Thanks by the way. |
| Feb27-12, 09:55 PM | #17 |
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