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How to find the generator of translation?

by kakarukeys
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kakarukeys
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Nov14-04, 08:32 AM
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The Galilei group contains rotations, Galilean transformations, space translation and time translation.

It is easy to work out generators for rotations and Galilean transfromations in matrix form.

And they obey:
[tex][J^i, K^j] = i \epsilon^{ijk}K^k[/tex]

Can one work out the generator for space translation, [tex]P[/tex]? so that one can show explicitly that:

[tex][K^i, P^j] = 0[/tex]

and same for time translation.
[tex][K^i, H] = i P^i[/tex]

OR

there is no matrix form for these two generators?
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Nov16-04, 01:58 AM
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Nobody else has taken a shot at this, so I'll put my $.02 in, though I'm afraid I can't give you as definite an answer as you'd like (well, for that matter, as I'd like).

Usual matrix notation is linear, so you can write down (x,y) -> ax + by in matrix form. However, you want to write a transform of the form x -> x+a. This isn't a linear tranform. It appears to me that you can do this by just defining a "variable" that's equal to a constant. To avoid winding up with non-square matrices, you'll have to add a dummy line, that describes how a constant transforms. Well, a constant is always equal to itself, it doesn't depend on the other variables, so the matrix entry for how a constant transforms will have to say that it's equal to 1 x itself, no other variable affects it.
da_willem
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Nov16-04, 03:12 AM
P: 599
Isn't the generator for space translations [tex]e^{i \hat{p}a/\hbar}[/tex]? Or is a generator something different?

kakarukeys
#4
Nov23-04, 07:36 PM
P: 190
How to find the generator of translation?

I do not quite understand what you said.
But I found the answer.
The matrix can be found by expanding the 4D space to 5D, provided that [tex]x_5[/tex] is always 1.


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