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Sep14-12, 11:11 AM   #18
 
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Yes but if you have a circumference of 10 don't you divide this by the 4 points of two symmetric lines in your circle to get a diameter.
Oh I think I see what you're saying now. If we have a circumference of 10, and you labelled it as 0-10 around the circle, if we get a diameter going through 0 and 5, we now have a circumference of 5 on one side of the diameter, and a circumference of 5 on the other side. If we do this again at right angles to the first diameter, we'll get a circumference of 2.5 in each of the quadrants (4 pieces to the circle).

This is true, but the length of the diameter does not equal the length of the circumference in each of these sectors, the diameter will be equal to [itex]10/d = \pi[/itex] so [itex]d = 10/pi\approx 3.18[/itex]
Sep14-12, 11:28 AM   #19
 
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I just want to affirm phinds' words and stress that no one is trying to give you a hard time. We are merely trying to speak in the same language.

And you really must forgive me, for I am too dumb to understand. So please, let us try and understand each other.

You say that a circle is perfectly symmetrical. I can agree with this, for any line that I can draw through the center of the circle cuts the circle into two identical pieces.

I cannot, however agree to your statement that 0 through 10 behave in perfect symmetry as well. And for this I apologize. But please if you will, try and answer my questions so that I may learn.

First, I do not know which numbers between 0 and 10 you refer to. Are you talking about just the whole numbers between 0 and 10? Such as 0, 1, 2, ...

Or are you talking about all the numbers, rational and irrational alike?

Secondly, as I cannot draw a line through numbers, I fail to see symmetry in the numbers 0 through 10. Can you please tell me in what way those numbers are symmetric?
Well if you only look at the whole numbers 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 everybody sees that 5 is the halfway mark. But what I wanted to show is that if you stop at the halfway mark and put 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 there you are basicly showing what a circle looks like. Which is symmetry in another way. What i mean is it doesnt end up being a square.
Sep14-12, 11:43 AM   #20
 
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Well if you only look at the whole numbers 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 everybody sees that 5 is the halfway mark. But what I wanted to show is that if you stop at the halfway mark and put 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 there you are basicly showing what a circle looks like. Which is symmetry in another way. What i mean is it doesnt end up being a square.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that. I've NEVER seen a circle that ended up being a square.

Really, you continue to make statement that do not seem to make any sense.
Sep14-12, 11:48 AM   #21
 
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Quote by Jorgy86 View Post
Yes but if you have a circumference of 10 don't you divide this by the 4 points of two symmetric lines in your circle to get a diameter.
No, you don't do this.
Sep14-12, 11:54 AM   #22
 
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Oh I think I see what you're saying now. If we have a circumference of 10, and you labelled it as 0-10 around the circle, if we get a diameter going through 0 and 5, we now have a circumference of 5 on one side of the diameter, and a circumference of 5 on the other side. If we do this again at right angles to the first diameter, we'll get a circumference of 2.5 in each of the quadrants (4 pieces to the circle).

This is true, but the length of the diameter does not equal the length of the circumference in each of these sectors, the diameter will be equal to [itex]10/d = \pi[/itex] so [itex]d = 10/pi\approx 3.18[/itex]
And we do need to add the right angles again to the first diameter to investigate the technical aspect of the circle. How else would one draw a circle without it. So a quadrant is a forth of a circle then what im looking for is 2 quadrants which would be 5. What ive been aiming to do is keep the circle symmetric and i guess it would take the two 2.5 quadrants to make up my diameter. So my initial approach to this has been wrong. My diameter should have ended up as 5 correct?

If one sees that 0-10 is symmetric like a circle it would make more sense if the diameter was 5. Sorry for the slip up.
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With all respect, Jorgy86, but I think you should pick up a geometry book and work through it. I don't think anybody in this thread can help you since we don't really understand what you're talking about.

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