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| Sep28-12, 02:16 PM | #1 |
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Dirac delta in curved space
The Dirac delta function is defined as:
[tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})dx} = 1[/tex] Or more generally the integral is, [tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {dx'} )dx} [/tex] But if the metric varies with x, then the integral becomes, [tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/tex] But from the wikipedia.com article we have, [tex]\delta (f(x)) = \frac{{\delta (x - {x_z})}}{{\left| {f'({x_z})} \right|}}[/tex] where xz is such that [itex]f({x_z}) = 0[/itex]. And since, [tex]\frac{d}{{dx}}(\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} ) = \sqrt {g(x)} [/tex] and [tex]f(x) = \int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} = 0[/tex] when x= x0 so that xz= x0. Then the above becomes, [tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx} = \int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\frac{{\delta (x - {x_0})}}{{\left| {\sqrt {g({x_0})} } \right|}}\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/tex] Now obviously if g(x) is constant, we recover the original Dirac delta function. But what if g(x) is not constant, can I still recover the original Dirac delta function? Then the Dirac delta would behave the same in any space. Have I evaluated [itex]{\left| {\sqrt {g({x_0})} } \right|}[/itex] wrong? Could there be some sense is saying this should simply by [itex]{\sqrt {g(x)} }[/itex] so that it cancels out? Maybe x never really equals x0, but only approaches it, so that we use some other property of the Dirac delta. |
| Sep28-12, 07:07 PM | #2 |
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OK, I think I got it. Starting with
[tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx} = \int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\frac{{\delta (x - {x_0})}}{{\left| {\sqrt {g({x_0})} } \right|}}\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/tex] I suppose it is safe to assume that the metric g(x) is real and always positive so the squareroot is positive, and we can drop the absolute sign. And since we can bring the denominator outside the integral, we have, [tex]\frac{1}{{\sqrt {g({x_0})} }}\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/tex] And then the sifting property lets us bring the function multiplied by the Dirac delta outside the integral with an x value of x0, to get, [tex]\frac{1}{{\sqrt {g({x_0})} }}\sqrt {g({x_0})} \int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})dx } [/tex] But since the squareroots of g cancel, this is just [itex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})dx} [/itex]. So, [tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx} = \int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})dx} = 1[/tex] Or the Dirac delta function is invariant with changes of coordinates, metric, curvature or spaces. But I suppose if we think in higher dimensional terms, the integral inside the Dirac delta is a line integral, and the integral outside the delta is a volume integral, right? So would we still get the cancellation of squareroots of g in higher dimensions? Or would the g(x) term in the line integral not be squarerooted like the volume integral outside the delta? |
| Sep28-12, 10:38 PM | #3 |
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Well, the Dirac distribution satisifes:
[tex]\int \delta(x-x_0) f(x) dx = f(x_0)[/tex] That pretty much answers your question. |
| Sep28-12, 10:53 PM | #4 |
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Dirac delta in curved space
BTW, if I am not mistaken we should take minus the squareroot of the det of the metric in the change of variables in integration.
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| Sep29-12, 08:17 AM | #5 |
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I'm not satisfied because I'm not sure how this generalizes in multidimensional space. What does
[tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/tex] look like in 3D? The [tex]{\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} }[/tex] part would be a line integral. How does that generalize in 3D with a changing metric? The [tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (......)\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/tex] part would be a volume integral where the squareroot of the metic is commonly used. So I guess my biggest question is how to use the metric in a line integral. And since you can have more than one line from x0 to x in 3D, how do you determine which line to take, if it even matters? Would you integrate the line integral as it travels over the geodesic? |
| Sep30-12, 01:56 AM | #6 |
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Well it should be similar to the one dimensional case.
I assume you know that the n-dimensional Dirac Delta distribution is made up of a product of 1-dimensional Dirac Delta distribution. So you do the same trick you did before and get something like: [tex] \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \delta ^n (\bar{x}-\bar{x_0}) \frac{\sqrt{g(\bar{x})}}{\sqrt{g(\bar{x_0})}} d\bar{x}[/tex] Ok, in your case I think (though not certain), that th line integral from one dimensional becomes if [tex]\bar{x} =(x^1,x^2,...,x^n)[/tex] then the line integral becomes: [tex] \int_{x^1_0}^{x^1}...\int_{x^n_0}^{x^n} \sqrt{g(x')}dx'^1...dx'^n[/tex] |
| Sep30-12, 10:39 AM | #7 |
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The differential line segment squared is:
[tex]d{s^2} = {g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}[/tex] So the line integral in a general curved space is: [tex]\int_{{{\vec x}_0}}^{\vec x} {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}} } [/tex] which is usually parameterized as: [tex]\int_{{t_0}}^t {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x(t))\frac{{d{x^i}}}{{dt}}\frac{{d{x^j}}}{{dt}}} } \,\,\,dt[/tex] And when we put this inside the Dirac delta to get [tex]\delta (\int_{{{\vec x}_0}}^{\vec x} {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}} } )[/tex] I don't know how this can be put in the form [tex]\delta (f(\vec x)) = \frac{{\delta (\vec x - {{\vec x}_z})}}{{\left| {f'({{\vec x}_z})} \right|}}[/tex] where [itex]f({{\vec x}_z}) = 0[/itex]. Can [itex]{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}[/itex] be put in the form of a determinant of the metric time differentials so that we can evaluate [itex]g(\vec x)[/itex] at [itex]{{\vec x}_0}[/itex] and bring it outside the delta in the denominator where it cancels as before? |
| Sep30-12, 12:02 PM | #8 |
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| Oct1-12, 05:24 PM | #9 |
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In one dimensional space, [itex]\vec x = (x)[/itex], which means [itex]{x^i} = x[/itex] and [itex]d{x^i} = dx[/itex], so that
[tex]\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}} = \sqrt {{g_{ii}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^i}} = \sqrt {g(x)} dx[/tex] and then [tex]\delta (\int_{{{\vec x}_0}}^{\vec x} {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}} } ) = \delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx} ') = \frac{{\delta (x - {x_0})}}{{\sqrt {g({x_0})} }}[/tex] And this [itex]{\sqrt {g({x_0})} }[/itex] cancels with the one in the volume integral. And the Dirac delta is invariant in 1D. In 2D, we have [itex]\vec x = ({x^1},{x^2})[/itex], and [tex]{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j} = {g_{11}}({x^1},{x^2})d{x^1}d{x^1} + {g_{12}}({x^1},{x^2})d{x^1}d{x^2} + {g_{22}}({x^1},{x^2})d{x^2}d{x^2} + {g_{21}}({x^1},{x^2})d{x^2}d{x^1}[/tex] And in flat space, [itex]{g_{12}} = {g_{21}} = 0[/itex], so that the above becomes, [tex]{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j} = {g_{11}}d{x^1}d{x^1} + {g_{22}}d{x^2}d{x^2}[/tex] Then if [itex]{g_{11}} = {g_{22}} = g[/itex], we get [tex]{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j} = g{(d{x^1})^2} + g{(d{x^2})^2}[/tex] And, [tex]\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}} = \sqrt g \sqrt {{{(d{x^1})}^2} + {{(d{x^2})}^2}} = \sqrt g ds[/tex] So that the [itex]\sqrt g [/itex] cancels out to make the integral of the Dirac delta invariant with changes in rescaling of flat space. I wonder what this means. Is the Dirac delta invariant with Lorentz transformation since those are transformation from one flat spacetime to another flat spacetime? If we parameterize the line integral with [itex]\vec x = \vec x(t)[/itex] to get, [tex]\int_{{{\vec x}_0}}^{\vec x} {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j}} } = \int_{{t_0}}^t {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x(t'))\frac{{d{x^i}}}{{dt'}}\frac{{d{x^j}}}{{dt'}}} } \,\,\,dt'[/tex] Can we show that the time variable must be orthogonal to the flat space dimensions? Can we prove the necessity of Minkowski metric for an invariant integral of a parameterized Dirac delta function? |
| Oct2-12, 12:57 PM | #10 |
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[tex]\int_{{t_0}}^t {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x(t))\frac{{d{x^i}}}{{dt}}\frac{{d{x^j}}}{{dt}}} } \,\,\,dt[/tex] if we make [itex]{g_{ij}}(\vec x) = 0[/itex] whenever i≠j, then we get [tex]\int_{{t_0}}^t {\sqrt {{g_i}(\vec x(t)){{\left( {\frac{{d{x^i}}}{{dt}}} \right)}^2}} } \,\,\,dt[/tex] Now, in order to make [itex]\sqrt {g(x)} [/itex] come outside the Dirac delta and cancel as before, we need [tex]{\left( {\frac{{d{x^i}}}{{dt}}} \right)^2} = 1[/tex] Or, we can put this in a different way by saying [tex]{(ds)^2} = {(dt)^2} - {(dx)^2} = 0[/tex] This looks like the Minkowski metric. But I don't know what it would mean to have ds≠0. |
| Oct8-12, 03:57 PM | #11 |
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Now that I think about it, when I write:
[tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})dx} = \int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {dx'} )dx} = \int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx} = 1[/tex] I don't actually know whether the [itex]{g(x)}[/itex] in the volume form of [itex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (...)\sqrt {g(x)} dx} [/itex] outside the dirac delta is really the same as the [itex]{g(x')}[/itex] in [itex]\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )[/itex] in the line integral inside the dirac delta. The volume form [itex]{g(x)}[/itex] outside the delta is [tex]\sqrt {g(x)} = \det ({J^T}J)[/tex] where [tex]J = \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}} {\frac{{\partial {u^1}}}{{\partial {x^1}}}}&{\frac{{\partial {u^1}}}{{\partial {x^2}}}}\\ {\frac{{\partial {u^2}}}{{\partial {x^1}}}}&{\frac{{\partial {u^2}}}{{\partial {x^2}}}} \end{array}} \right)[/tex] for a change of coordinates from u to x. But the [itex]{g(x')}[/itex] in the line integral inside the delta is [tex]{g_{ij}}(\vec x)d{x^i}d{x^j} = {g_{11}}d{x^1}d{x^1} + {g_{12}}d{x^1}d{x^2} + {g_{22}}d{x^2}d{x^2} + {g_{21}}d{x^2}d{x^1}[/tex] And then when [itex]{g_{12}} = {g_{21}} = 0[/itex] and [itex]{g_{11}} = {g_{22}} = g[/itex], the [itex]{g(x')}[/itex] is just a constant [itex]{g}[/itex]. Are these two g's actually the same thing... even in curved space? How does that work? |
| Oct16-12, 12:56 PM | #12 |
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Previously, I considered:
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| Oct16-12, 01:50 PM | #13 |
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Perhaps this will help? http://www.fen.bilkent.edu.tr/~ercelebi/mp03.pdf
It gives the form of the dirac delta in curvilinear coordinates (in 3d). I would guess that to achieve your purposes you would need to generalize to arbitrary dimension and modify the scale factors ##h_i## to account for different metrics. |
| Oct16-12, 04:41 PM | #14 |
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[tex]\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (x - {x_0})dx}=\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {dx'} )dx}=\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{x_0}}^x {\sqrt {g(x')} dx'} )\sqrt {g(x)} dx}=\int_{ - \infty }^{ + \infty } {\delta (\int_{{t_0}}^t {\sqrt {{g_{ij}}(\vec x(t))\frac{{d{x^i}}}{{dt}}\frac{{d{x^j}}}{{dt}}} } \,\,\,dt){\sqrt {g(x)} }dx}=1[/tex] Or, if I also apply the first variation to all this and set it equal to zero, is there enough information to specify the metric of Special Relativity or General Relativity? Wouldn't it be interesting if it did? |
| Oct16-12, 09:49 PM | #15 |
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Honestly, this sounds like the domain of current theory, so ask mathematician who specialise in that? |
| Oct17-12, 11:50 AM | #16 |
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| Oct18-12, 10:06 AM | #17 |
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