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| Jan13-13, 08:22 AM | #18 |
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Taylor Expansion of Natural Logarithm
That's why it is undetermined and not infinity.
x=50 is the smallest x for which the limit will always be 0. anything lower than 50, and the nominator could be larger than the denominator => the limit will diverge. |
| Jan13-13, 09:20 AM | #19 |
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"It could be larger" => you cannot use the general version of the lagrangian error to show convergence
It converges, but you cannot use this way to show it. With c arbitrary small, it would diverge for other x as well, by the way. |
| Jan13-13, 10:16 AM | #20 |
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yes, but since c is between x and 100, if x is bigger than 50 or smaller than 200 it won't diverge for any x and for any c.
when i pick x=1, for example, for 1<c<99 the limit diverges. you cannot talk about a series in that case, because the remainder does not necessarily converge to 0. |
| Jan13-13, 10:39 AM | #21 |
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Let me rewrite your limit a bit:
$$\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{1}{c(n+1)} \frac{(x-100)^n}{c^n}$$ Consider c=100-epsilon with some (small) constant epsilon: The first part goes to 0, the second part, neglecting its sign, can be written as $$\frac{(100-x)^n}{(100-\epsilon)^n}$$ This is smaller than 1 for epsilon<x, which is easy to satisfy for x<50 (c is close to 100 then). x=50, c=50 gives convergence as well, and you covered the remaining parts. The series can converge to 0. Where is the problem? |
| Jan14-13, 10:03 AM | #22 |
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It's very confusing. If the Lagrange remainder doesn't approach 0 it means you cannot estimate the function correctly, but in this case the calculation of the series does give accurate estimations.
It's very interesting. Does anyone know the answer to this? |
| Jan14-13, 11:40 AM | #23 |
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^The Lagrange remainder does approach 0, you have chosen a terrible way to estimate it. Either use a more subtle estimate of the Lagrange remainder or use the Cauchy Remainder or Schlömilch Remainder. Remember your estimate for c is quite crude.
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| Jan14-13, 01:35 PM | #24 |
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If i can find even 1 such number for which the remainder does not approach 0, it means that the series is not a correct estimation for the function. |
| Jan15-13, 04:01 PM | #25 |
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But I found one. |
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