Potential of Infinite Sheets of Charge and Conducting Slab

by Gee Wiz
Tags: charge, conducting, infinite, potential, sheets, slab
 P: 135 1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data An infinite sheet of charge is located in the y-z plane at x = 0 and has uniform charge denisity σ1 = 0.3 μC/m2. Another infinite sheet of charge with uniform charge density σ2 = -0.33 μC/m2 is located at x = c = 21.0 cm.. An uncharged infinite conducting slab is placed halfway in between these sheets ( i.e., between x = 8.5 cm and x = 12.5 cm). What is V(S) - V(P), the potential difference between point P and point S, located at (x,y) = (16.75 cm, -12.5 cm)? (point P is at 4.25 cm, 0 cm) 2. Relevant equations no quite sure 3. The attempt at a solution So, i thought that the electric field would be constant between the two plates. But, apparently it's not (which i still don't fully understand). Also, i realize that i can basically ignore the thick slab since it has a net of 0 charge. I got v(p) to be 1512.71, but i do not know how to go about getting v(s). Or rather the e field at s would be a good start. I know the e field at p is 35593.2.
 PF Patron HW Helper Thanks P: 3,666 Hello, Gee Wiz. Welcome to PF! Have you learned about electric fields inside of conducting materials for electrostatic conditions?
 P: 135 um...you mean like induced charge? (i thought that was for spheres)..or did i miss your question?
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Potential of Infinite Sheets of Charge and Conducting Slab

Have you learned about the magnitude of E inside a conductor for electrostatics? There's a general fact about this that applies to all conductors.
 P: 135 Oh, i think i know what you are referring to. That the e field within a conductor's metal is 0. ya?
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 P: 135 alright, i'm not quite sure how that helps here. I thought i could basically just ignore that slab since it has a net of 0
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 P: 135 take the e-field that i found at p times the difference between the distance of the two points.
 PF Patron HW Helper Thanks P: 3,666 When you take the distance between the two points, be careful. Do you take the actual displacement between the points, or only the component of the displacement parallel to the field? With the slab in place, there is no electric field in the region of the slab. Should the potential change when going through the slab?
 P: 135 Sorry, when i said distance between the two points i meant horizontal distance. I think i am struggling with the slab notion. I'm pretty sure that the e-field and therefore the potential charge in the slab would be zero. I found in an earlier part of this problem the charge density on either side of the slab (-.315uc/m^2 and .315uc/m^2). Does that play a role here?
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 Quote by Gee Wiz Sorry, when i said distance between the two points i meant horizontal distance.
Good.
 I think i am struggling with the slab notion. I'm pretty sure that the e-field and therefore the potential charge in the slab would be zero.
I don't know what "potential charge" means.
 I found in an earlier part of this problem the charge density on either side of the slab (-.315uc/m^2 and .315uc/m^2). Does that play a role here?
Not directly. The key idea is that potential difference between points is due to electric field in the region between the points. As you move around in a region of electric field, the potential changes. Going "downstream" in the direction of the field causes the potential to decrease. Going against the field increases the potential.

Suppose that you had two points of space where there is no electric field in the region between the points. How would the potential at the two points compare? For example if V = 100 V at one point, what would it be at the other point?

Can you apply this to two points of the slab? Say, point A on the left surface of the slab at x = 8.5 cm and point B on the right surface at x = 12.5. What is V(A) - V(B)?
 P: 135 i think i meant electric potential (since e field is zero). If there is not electric field in the region then i would assume that the other point would also be 100V. I think? V(A)-V(B) would be 0 since there is no e field in the slab..?
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 P: 135 Alright so, would i just shrink the distance (horizontal distance) by 4cm. since that is the length of the slab. so instead of being 16.75cm away from the furthest charge it is only 12.75cm away?
 PF Patron HW Helper Thanks P: 3,666 Yes. Or, equivalently, shrink the horizontal distance between P and S by 4 cm.
 P: 135 Awesome, two things: i got the right answer from that and your explanation was really helpful for other things in my course. I really appreciate it. Have a super Monday!
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