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| Feb2-13, 09:05 PM | #1 |
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question about a quantum field.
What do they mean when they say a quantum field has an infinite amount of degrees of freedom? I hardly know anything about QFT so don't go to deep. Does this mean that the field
can move in an infinite amount of ways that are independent of each other. |
| Feb2-13, 10:14 PM | #2 |
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A point particle moving in three dimensions has three degrees of freedom, because its state can be completely specified by three numbers (its spatial coordinates) and their time derivatives. Now consider, say, the classical electromagnetic field. To specify the state of the electromagnetic field you need an infinity of numbers: the values of E and B throughout space. So the electromagnetic field has an infinite number of degrees of freedom. This continues to be true when you treat the electromagnetic field quantum mechanically, with quantum field theory. |
| Feb2-13, 10:22 PM | #3 |
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So in QFT you would just quantize the classical fields.
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| Feb2-13, 10:56 PM | #4 |
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question about a quantum field.
Yes. You find, in the classical field theory of a field ##\phi##, the canonically conjugate momentum ##\pi(x)## to the field at ##\phi(x)## at each point in space x. Then you promote the field ##\phi## and conjugate momentum ##\pi## to operators ##\hat\phi## and ##\hat \pi## and impose the canonical commutation relation ##[\hat\phi(x), \hat\pi(y)] = i \hbar \delta(x - y)##. This is exactly analogous the to the equation ##[\hat{x}_i, \hat{p}_j] = i \hbar \delta_{ij}## for a single point particle in 3 dimensions. The procedure is exactly the same as quantizing a simple quantum mechanical system, except that since we have an infinite number of degrees of freedom we end up with an infinite number of commutation relations, one for each pair of spatial points x and y.
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| Feb3-13, 05:33 AM | #5 |
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Or you could use a different approach and use a wave function (I find this much more intuitive to understand, although it is much more difficult to calculate things this way):
For a point particle, you make the transition to QM by saaying: "The particle does not have a definitive position, but is in a superposition of all possible position states. For each state I have a probability amplitude, which I call the wave function." Similarly, in QFT, you can say "For each classically possible field configuration, I have a probability amplitude for this configuration, which I call the wave function(al)" Of course this is an ugly beast, mathematically (IT is a function that assigns a number to a field configuration, which is another function (so it is a functional)), but it make many things very easy to understand. For example, the vacuum state is not just a state where the field is zero (as in classical physics), but it is a superpositon of different field configurations - only the mean value (expectation value) is zero. Similarly, you can see (with a bit of calculation) that a one-photon state is not a state where the electrical field has some definite value, but it is always a superposition of different field configurations where the expectation value of the electrical field is zero. |
| Feb3-13, 09:24 AM | #6 |
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Interesting, thanks for the responses. What is a good book that I should look at for intro
to QFT? |
| Feb3-13, 09:57 AM | #7 |
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What's interesting to me about quantum field theory is the fact that two seemingly very different approaches lead to the same theory in the end.
The two approaches:
It's strange to me that many-particle quantum mechanics is the same as quantizing a classical field. |
| Feb3-13, 10:19 AM | #8 |
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@cragar
Good books - that has been discussed very oftern hereabouts. I like Zee, Stone, Ryder, also Srednicki (hope the spelling is right), and especially Hatfield (QFT of point particles and strings) which is the only one that treats all three approaches to QFT (canonical, path integrals and wave functionals). @stevendaryl Many-particle QM is not QFT - you have to add relativity to get there, otherwise there's no reason for spin or anti-particles. |
| Feb3-13, 10:21 AM | #9 |
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| Feb3-13, 10:38 AM | #10 |
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I add Peskin-Schroeder to begin with and Weinberg's books (Quantum Theory of Fields), which latter, I think, are the best books on the subject. I think Zee is more confusing than helping. All the others mentioned are good books.
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| Feb3-13, 10:39 AM | #11 |
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| Feb3-13, 11:01 AM | #12 |
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@stevendaryl
Yes, you are right (was thinking of "standard" QFT only). |
| Feb5-13, 07:54 AM | #13 |
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But how does the field operator (function mapping numbers to numbers) operate on a field (also a function mapping numbers to numbers)? The field operator seems to have only been declared to be an operator, but nothing else really changed. Maybe I just understand something in a really wrong way. Maybe there are no fields that are not operators at the same time, so the field operator does not operate on a field, but something more abstract. But I'm not sure how to grasp that. |
| Feb5-13, 08:05 AM | #14 |
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The field operator operates on a state, not on a field.
A state is not a function - for example, the vacuum state is a superposition of many different field configurations (as explained above). Luckily, you usually do not have to think too much about the meaning of a state since everything can be derived from a vacuum state using raisng/lowering operators. I think that for the question of how fields become operators, Bob Klaubers qftinfo site is quite helpful. (Although he has non-standard views on many things). |
| Feb5-13, 08:11 PM | #15 |
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Classically, you have the equations of motion: [itex]m \dfrac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = -k x[/itex] or alternatively, an energy equation: [itex]E = \frac{1}{2m} p^2 + \frac{1}{2} k x^2[/itex] where [itex]p = m \dfrac{dx}{dt}[/itex] The quantity [itex]x[/itex] is just a function of time, just a number. But then you take the quantum version of this theory, and there are two different ways to think about it: The Schrodinger way is that instead of [itex]x[/itex] being a definite function of time, there is instead a probability amplitude of the particle being at position [itex]x[/itex] at time [itex]t[/itex]. The second way of thinking about it, the Heisenberg way, which is more closely related to quantum field theory, is that when you quantize the harmonic oscillator, [itex]x[/itex] goes from being simply a number to being an operator that acts on a quantum state. The same thing happens in quantum field theory. The field [itex]\Phi[/itex] is classically just a number, a function of time (and space). But when you make a quantum version of the field, you can either do it the Schrodinger way, where there is a "wave functional" giving the probability amplitude of the number [itex]\Phi[/itex] having different values, or you can do it the Heisenberg way, where [itex]\Phi[/itex] becomes an operator, rather than a number. It's actually the case that the 1-D harmonic oscillator can be thought of as a field theory in 1-D spacetime (which means, there is only time, and no spatial dimensions). So in this sense, quantum mechanics is a degenerate case of quantum field theory. |
| Feb6-13, 01:30 PM | #16 |
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I checked Bob Klaubers web and he is introducing the annihilation and creation operators as coefficients of the Fourier transformation when solving the Klein-Gordon equation. The coefficient commutation relations are said to be the reason why these coefficients are not just numbers but operators. But I need to spend more time studying that, because from the first glance it is not clear to me what it means for a coefficient to be an operator, rather than a number. |
| Feb6-13, 01:46 PM | #17 |
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I'm actually trying to understand what is mathematically changed in the field [itex]\Phi[/itex], to make it behave like an operator. Because multiplying a state by a field (function that assigns a number to each coordinate) does not seem to do the job of being an operator action. |
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