Is the One Electron Universe Theory Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the "One Electron Universe" theory, which posits that the universe contains only one electron that travels back and forth in time, accompanied by its positron counterpart. Participants explore the implications of this theory, its feasibility, and related concepts of time and particle existence.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the theory as suggesting that the universe has one electron that moves through time, creating clones of itself and its positron counterpart.
  • Another participant argues that for every cloned electron, a positron would also be required, raising questions about the observed ratio of electrons to positrons in the universe.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the theory's coherence and its ability to make testable predictions.
  • A participant mentions that the idea was initially proposed by Feynman, who dismissed it due to the lack of sufficient positrons.
  • One participant questions the origin of the electron itself, seeking clarification on how it came into existence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the One Electron Universe theory. There are multiple competing views regarding its feasibility, with some expressing skepticism about its coherence and others exploring its implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants note gaps in understanding and the need for further clarification on the relationship between electrons and positrons, as well as the nature of time in this theoretical framework.

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i recently finished reading Beyond einstein by Michou Kaku, and i found an interesting theory. because antimatter is indistinguishable from matter going backwards in time, there is a theory that the universe has one electron. it went from the big bang to the big destruction as an electron, and then it was thrown back through time as antimatter. at this point the universe has one electron and one positron.

:smile: :confused:

then time goes back to the big bang, where all of the existing pieces are thrown foreward through time with their new clone of the original electron.

:smile: :confused: :smile:

and it keeps going back and forth. i think it would almost be instantaneous because they are flying forewards and backwards through time.

eventually you get this:
:smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: :confused: :smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: :confused: :smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: :confused: :smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: :confused: :smile: :confused: :smile: :confused: times infinity

this theory can kind of be compared to Back to the Future when he goes to the future just in time to see himself go into the past

heh I'm sorry about my poor explanation. blame my english teacher.

i know this theory is somewhat possible, but is it likely?
 
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If you can't use it to make predictions which can then be measured and verified it isn't much of a theory. I've read about this idea a few times before in various places, but I can't recall ever seeing anyone use it to make a prediction which could be verified, or even stating how it might be possible to develop the theory further in order to be able to make predictions.
 
yeah... it still doesn't make total sense to me either... the major events don't make sense to me and there are gaps that i just can't put my finger on.

so i guess this "theory" is highly unlikely, huh?
 
I looked at this a bit and I think that for every "cloned" electron you would need one positron. I can't draw the graphs any way to avoid it. So if all electrons in the universe were the same electron just going back (as a positron) and forth (as an electron) in time then I think we would have to observe about as many positrons as electrons. Since we don't I think the idea is incorrect.

Either that or someone smarter than me needs to draw the worldlines.

-Dale
 
is it time that you emphasised?

i have also read and thought about that idea and at one point i just thought time originated just as the big bang occurred, it created a CONSTANT TIME and it is time what is governing everything around.everything exapnded in this universe except time, which perhaps would have been moving back and forth just as you say.
 
DaleSpam said:
I looked at this a bit and I think that for every "cloned" electron you would need one positron. I can't draw the graphs any way to avoid it. So if all electrons in the universe were the same electron just going back (as a positron) and forth (as an electron) in time then I think we would have to observe about as many positrons as electrons. Since we don't I think the idea is incorrect.
Either that or someone smarter than me needs to draw the worldlines.
-Dale
This "one electron" idea was, in fact, first thought up by Feynman. He threw it out the window in a day or so for the very reason you did. There aren't anywhere near enough positrons.
 
But what formed the electron in the first place? How did it come into existence?
 

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