Why Are Thunderstorms Rare in Winter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the rarity of thunderstorms during winter months, examining the relationship between cold air, moisture, and the conditions necessary for lightning and thunder to occur. Participants consider both theoretical and experiential perspectives on this phenomenon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why thunderstorms are absent in winter, suggesting that cold air should be more conductive.
  • Another participant explains that cold air is less energetic, which may inhibit the formation of cumulonimbus clouds necessary for thunderstorms, as these clouds require strong updrafts that are rare in cold conditions.
  • There is mention of evidence suggesting that the freezing and thawing of airborne water may contribute to cloud charging.
  • A participant shares an anecdote about experiencing lightning during a snowstorm in the UK, highlighting that such events, while rare, can occur.
  • A Canadian participant notes their experience with both thunderstorms and snowstorms, agreeing that thunderstorms in cold conditions are rare and suggesting that cold air holds less moisture, which may affect storm formation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that thunderstorms are rare in winter, but they present multiple views on the reasons behind this rarity, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanisms at play.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on assumptions about the energy dynamics of cold air and moisture content, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the role of cloud formation processes in winter storms.

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Why is there never thunders during winters? Shoudnt the cold air be even more conductive?
 
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Cold air is less energetic. The process by which lightning is generated is not yet fully understood, but it does seem to require a lot of energy. For one thing, lightning only seems to come from cumulonymbus clouds, those big, tall clouds with the "anvil-shaped" tops that you allways see in association with thunderstorms. The formation of these clouds requires strong updrafts, which are very seldom found in cold air. And the storm itself is certainly a very energetic process.

There is also some evidence that te alternate freezing and thawing of the airborn H2o plays a role in charging the cloud.


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I have heard that lightning can come from a snowstorm, it's just a very rare event.
 
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just an aside, but here in the uk we had snow storms last week which had lightning in them.
 
Live in Canada, have experianced both...

EDIT yes it is a rare thing, the cold apparently 'dampens' things, cold air holds less moisture...the reasoning behind the "It Never snows when it is really reeally cold" (falacy) cause it can, but it is 'more rare', produces some really nice snow though, "Champagne" Snow, crosscountry skied in it, beauty!
 
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