Magnetic Field inside a current carrying wire

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field at the center of a current-carrying wire with a drilled hole. The problem involves understanding the magnetic field configuration due to a uniform current density and the influence of the hole on the magnetic field distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of Ampere's law and Biot-Savart law to determine the magnetic field, questioning the direction and configuration of the field inside the wire and the hole. There is discussion about the symmetry of the magnetic field and the implications of the hole on the field's characteristics.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing thoughts on the application of different laws and questioning assumptions about the magnetic field's behavior. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of superposition and the importance of considering the geometry of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the relationship between the wire and the hole, and the implications of using closed paths for applying Ampere's law. There is uncertainty about how to treat the hole in relation to the overall magnetic field configuration.

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A cable with given diameter D1 is given, a small hole with diameter D2 is drilled on it. The axis of them are parallel and the distance between the axis are given as r. There is a uniform steady current density flowing through it. How to calculate the magnetic field at the center of cable and center of the hole?

I have problem on how to start with the question. I am not sure which point the magnetic field is pointing and also, if i use ampere's law, i m using the closed path including outside. Thinking of Using Biot Savart law, but still i m having trouble in figuring out the direction of magnetic field.

Thanks
 
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Hmm, i just rethink again, maybe i should first use Amperes law to find the relationship of magnetic field inside the wire, then use superposition of the de-magnetic field due to the hole and add them up together.#

Just a guess, is the magnetic field still a circle inside the wire? (assuming no hole in this case).
 
Just a guess, is the magnetic field still a circle inside the wire? (assuming no hole in this case).
Yes, the magnetic field is "always" a closed loop... regardless of "everything"...

, if i use ampere's law, i m using the closed path including outside.
Not quite right... you want to know the B field inside the hole, therefore the closed path
shall not fall outside the inner diameter... if that is the case, what can you conclude from
this?

Thinking of Using Biot Savart law,
If you want to use Biot Savart law, the B field must perpendicular to the direction of
the current flow, however, since the current is surrounding you, you could argue that
the B field could not point to any of these direction otherwise the whole picture is not
"symmetric" anymore, thus the field must be zero.
 
sorry to hijack the thread but i am doing a question very similar to darkar's and am just wondering; do you use a closed curve centred on the axis of the wire or on the centre of the hole to work out the magnetic field in the hole? My guess would be the centre of the hole, but do you consider the hole to be similar, for example, to the hole in the centre of a solenoid or do you treat it completely differently?
 
HINT: Can you reconstruct the current flowing through the given cable by a superposition of currents flowing through simpler geometries?
 

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