Is Center of Mass Relevant in Calculating Solid Angle of a Disk?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the solid angle subtended at the origin by a thin circular disk of radius a, positioned at a distance b from the origin, with the normal to the disk being parallel. Participants explore whether the center of mass is necessary for this calculation and clarify the implications of the normal's orientation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relevance of finding the center of mass in solving the solid angle problem.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on what "the normal to the disk is parallel" refers to, suggesting that the problem's difficulty varies depending on the normal's orientation.
  • A participant proposes a formula for the incremental solid angle, indicating that if the normal is directed at the origin, the solid angle can be approximated by the formula πa²/b².
  • A correction is made to the formula for the incremental solid angle, emphasizing the correct representation of the equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the center of mass in the calculation, and there is no consensus on the implications of the normal's orientation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the problem statement, particularly regarding the orientation of the normal and its impact on the calculation of the solid angle. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to the derivation of the solid angle formula.

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Question: Find the solid angle subtended at the origin by a thin circular disk of radius a, whose cente is a distance b from the origin and where the normal to the disk is parallel.

Do I have to find the center of mass to solve this question?
 
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Originally posted by jlmac2001
Question: Find the solid angle subtended at the origin by a thin circular disk of radius a, whose cente is a distance b from the origin and where the normal to the disk is parallel.

Do I have to find the center of mass to solve this question?

"the normal to the disk is parallel"?? Parallel to what?

The problem would be relatively easy if the normal to the disk were directed at the origin. It's quite a bit harder if the normal is parallel to the xy-plane or parallel to the z-axis.
 
If the normal of the disk is parallel to the direction from the orgin, the incremental solid angle is defined by

[tex]d\Omega = {dA_s}\over{r^2)[/tex]

where the numerator is the surface area of the shape and the demoninator is the distance from the orgin. For a cylindrical plate the surface area would be [tex]\pi a^2[/tex]. For your problem, the solid angle could be approximated by

[tex]\pi {a^2}\over{b^2}[/tex].
 
should be

[tex]d\Omega = {\frac{dA_s}{r^2}}[/tex]
 

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