Measuring Astronomical Distances

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The discussion centers on the methods used to measure astronomical distances, including parallax, Cepheid variables, and redshift. Participants explore the limitations and applications of these techniques in the context of both nearby and distant celestial objects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines a parsec and suggests that measuring angles of 1'' limits distance measurements to about 2 parsecs, or roughly 7 light years.
  • Another participant corrects the definition of a second of arc and states that parallax can measure distances up to nearly a hundred parsecs with appropriate equipment.
  • It is proposed that Cepheid variables can be used to measure distances based on the relationship between their period of variation and total luminosity.
  • A participant mentions the use of redshift to measure distances to galaxies, noting that greater distances correlate with higher redshift due to the galaxies moving away from us.
  • One participant highlights the concept of the "cosmic distance ladder," where different methods for measuring distances overlap and can be used to calibrate one another.
  • There is an acknowledgment that measurements become more uncertain as the distance increases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of multiple methods for measuring astronomical distances, but there is no consensus on the limitations or effectiveness of each method, particularly regarding the precision of measurements at greater distances.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependency on the resolution of measuring instruments for parallax, the assumptions made in using Cepheid variables, and the uncertainties associated with redshift measurements for distant galaxies.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in astronomy, astrophysics, or anyone looking to understand the complexities of measuring vast distances in the universe.

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Hai..
One 'parsec' is the distance from a star which makes an angle of 1''(1/60 of a degree)with the sun and earth(1.5*10^8 km).So by measuring an angle of 1'' we can measure to a maximum of 2 parsec.
But this only about 7 light years and we are speaking of much much bigger astronomical distances.How these are measured.
Thanks...

Jay
 
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A second of arc is actually one 1/60 of 1/60 of a degree -- 1/3600 of a degree.

Parallax can actually make measurements all the way out to nearly a hundred parsecs. You just need equipment that is capable of measuring angles in a sub-arcsecond range. An instrument that can only measure an arcsecond resolution would not be very useful, since only one two stars are that close.

Beyond parallax, we can use stars like Cepheid variables to measure distance. Cepheids have a particular relationship between the period of their variation and their total luminosity (how much total energy per unit time the star is producing). If you can measure the period, you can calculate the luminosity. If you know the luminosity (how bright the star is up-close) and the apparent magnitude (how bright the stars is from where we are), you can calculate its distance.

Even beyond that, we can use the redshift of light from distant galaxies to measure their distances. The farther away a galaxy is, the faster it is moving away from us, and the more its light is redshifted.
 
V good explanation:smile:
 
The different methods for measuring distances (e.g., parallax for "close" stars, standard candles for more distant galaxies, etc.) have overlapping ranges where they can be applied. So each method can be used to calibrate/check the other. I forget the name of this procedure...the "cosmic distance ladder" or something like that.

The closer the object, the better the measurement. The more distant, the more uncertainty.

another good description...
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mstardistance.html
 
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