Observe all the ages of the universe

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether it is possible to observe the same galaxy at different ages, considering the finite speed of light and the implications for how we perceive astronomical objects. The scope includes conceptual understanding of light travel, observational limitations in astronomy, and the nature of time in relation to light from distant galaxies.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why we cannot see the same galaxy at different ages if we can observe all ages of the universe.
  • Another participant explains that we cannot see an object at two different times because nothing travels faster than light, and thus an object cannot transmit light from two different locations simultaneously.
  • A different viewpoint elaborates that we can only see the light that reaches us at a given moment, meaning we observe galaxies as they were in the past, but not at multiple ages simultaneously.
  • It is noted that while we cannot see the same galaxy at different ages, we can observe different galaxies at various ages, which helps in understanding the evolution of galaxies over time.
  • A welcoming message is included for new participants in the forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the limitations imposed by the speed of light in observing astronomical objects, but there is an underlying question about the implications of these limitations that remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of gravitational effects on galaxies or the potential for observing their influence over time, leaving some assumptions and conditions unaddressed.

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well i have this question , maybe fool. Hope not misunderstood
if we can observe all the ages of the universe , then why we cannot see twice the same galaxie in two different ages. Or maybe we cannot see it but can see its gravitationals efects over other galaxie in the past??
 
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We don't see any object at two different times because nothing travels faster than light. Whenever an object moves, its light shows the full trayectory it followed.

In order to produce an image from a different place that reached us in parallel with its original image (without considering gravitational lensing), an object would need to move past its own light, and start transmitting again from its new location. A space-time diagram will probably help you understand it.
 
Imagine the galaxy emitting light toward the Earth. Every instant, more light is sent toward us. Like a long train of light. We can only see the light that reaches us "now" (one point in that train). We can't see the light that has passed us or that has not yet reached us. Telescopes don't reach out to capture light...they only capture more of the light already here.

So, we can only see that galaxy one instant at a time.

Because the speed of light is finite, it takes time to reach us. Therefore, the image we see is old (an image of the past).

The further away we look, the older the images are. This is why we can see different ages of the universe. But we can't see the same object at different ages. We can see similar objects (like other galaxies that are basically the same shape or size) at different ages so we can then get idea of how things changed over time.
 
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