Fun problem: ? x / (x^2 + 6x + 10) dx

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x / (x^2 + 6x + 10) with respect to x. Participants explore different methods for solving the integral, including integration by parts and substitution techniques, while also addressing a claim about proving 1=1 through integration.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an integral solution and connects it to the statement "1=1," prompting questions about the relevance of this claim.
  • Another participant critiques the first solution, suggesting that integration by parts was misapplied and proposes using partial fractions instead, noting the irreducibility of the denominator over the reals.
  • A further suggestion involves a substitution u = x + 3 to simplify the integral, breaking it down into two parts that can be integrated separately.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake regarding the expression of x in terms of u, indicating a potential oversight in their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate method for solving the integral, with no consensus reached on the best approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of the initial claim about integration by parts proving 1=1.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps related to the integration techniques discussed, particularly concerning the application of integration by parts and the substitution method proposed.

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Fun problem: ? x / (x^2 + 6x + 10) dx

Integration by parts proves 1=1! My mathematical fame is at hand! So how would you do this one?
 
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[tex]\int\frac{x}{x^2 + 6x + 10}{\rm d}x = \frac12\left(\ln[10 + x(6 + x)]-6 \arctan [3 + x] \right)[/tex]


So, what does this have to do with 1=1 (which is selfevidently true anyway)?
 
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Integration by parts proves 1=1? In other words, you used integration by parts twice, the second time reversing your choice for u and dv so the two cancelled!

"Partial fractions" is what you need here. The denominator, x^2 + 6x + 10, is "irreducible" over the real numbers. It is the same as
x^2+ 6x+ 9+ 1= (x+3)^2+ 1. I would recommend the substitution
u= x+ 3 so that du= dx, x= u- 3 and the problem becomes integrating
(u-3)/(u^2+1)= u/(u^2+1)- 3/(u^2+1).

The first of those can be done by the further substitution v= u^2+1 and the second is a simple arctangent.
 
OOops, I forgot that x could be expressed in terms of u.
 
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