How Does a Roller Coaster Affect Scale Readings?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a roller coaster, specifically analyzing how the scale readings change as a person experiences motion along a vertical circular path. The subject area includes concepts of forces, centripetal acceleration, and weight.

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  • Participants discuss determining variables such as speed and radius, and calculating centripetal force. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between mass, weight, and the forces acting on the scale during the roller coaster's motion.

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A scale is fitted into the seat of a roller coaster car and a person weighing 800 N sits down on it. The car then descends along a path that has the shape of a 100.0 m radius vertical circle with its lowest point at the bottom where the car reaches its greatest speed of 40.0 m/s. What is the maximum reading of the scale?
 
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This problem is not all that challenging! You should be able to calculate the "centripetal force" the seat of the car must exert on the person (through the scale) in order to turn the person through the given curve. That will be in addition to the person's weight, of course.
 
a) determine your variables:
V=40m/s
R=100m
F=800N = mg = m(9.8m/s^2) thus:
m=81.6N
[tex]a_{rad}[/tex] = ?


1st concept--> Force = mass x acceleration

[tex]F=ma[/tex]


next, [tex]a_{rad}=\frac{mV^2}{R}[/tex]

so what do you think you need to do? you know that F=ma, well, you want to know what force will be excerted onto the scale at the bottom of the curve right? well simply plug in your variables to the cent accel funtion and solve for [tex]a_{rad}[/tex] then once you get that... GO BACK to the F=ma formula, and solve for F. this F is the force the body exerts onto the scale.
 
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Determine your variables:
V = 40m/s
R = 100m
F = 800N = mg = m (9.8m/s^2) thus:
m = 81.6kg

[tex]a_{rad}=\frac{mV^2}{R}[/tex] = (81.6kg) (40m/s)^2 / 100m
= 130560 / 100m
= 1305.6m/s^2

1st concept --> Fnet = ma
= (81.6kg)(1305.6m/s^2)
= 106537N
= 1.07 X 10^5 N
 
Saad,

In post number 3 you wrote, "m=81.6N." Did you mean 81.6 kg?

Amd don't forget what HallsofIvy said about tacking on the 800 N of weight due to gravity after you do your circular acceleration calculation.
 

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