Proof of A Dense in Rn Not Bounded in Math

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The discussion centers on the mathematical assertion that if a set A is dense in ℝⁿ, then A cannot be bounded. Participants clarify that a set A is dense if its closure equals ℝⁿ (denoted as &bar;A = ℝⁿ) and that a set is bounded if there exists an ε > 0 such that the ball Bₑₕ(0) contains A. The conversation emphasizes the effectiveness of proof by contrapositive in demonstrating this relationship, suggesting that proving the contrapositive directly avoids unnecessary assumptions.

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I have the following A\subset\mathbb{R}^{n} is dense then A isn't bounded. Is this true? I know that A is dense iff \bar{A}=\mathbb{R}^{n} and that A is bounded iff \exists \epsilon>0\mid B_{\epsilon}(0)\supset A. How to proof it? Or there is an counterexample?
 
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Try reductio ad absurdum (proof by contradiction).
 
It's slightly nicer to show that a bounded set in R cannot be dense. Many proofs by contradiction are unnecessary - i.e. you wish to show A implies B, so you assume A and not B and show not B implies not A, without any use of the assumption of A.
 
matt grime said:
It's slightly nicer to show that a bounded set in R cannot be dense. Many proofs by contradiction are unnecessary - i.e. you wish to show A implies B, so you assume A and not B and show not B implies not A, without any use of the assumption of A.

But you just said "Assume A"! Anyway, many people would consider proving the contrapositive to be "proof by contradiction".
 
What? The point was just make a constructive proof of the contrapositive statement without making an unnecessary preliminary assumption.
 
matt grime said:
What? The point was just make a constructive proof of the contrapositive statement without making an unnecessary preliminary assumption.

Yes, I see. As I read the original post, I said to myself "Well, they both can't be true (being dense and bounded)," and this placed proof by contradiction in my mind. Bot all that is needed is ~B (bounded), so contapositive gives a direct proof.
 
Thank you for the help!
 

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