Proof of A Dense in Rn Not Bounded in Math

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a set A in \(\mathbb{R}^{n}\), specifically examining the relationship between density and boundedness. The original poster questions whether a dense set can also be unbounded and seeks proof or counterexamples.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore proof techniques, including reductio ad absurdum and direct proof of contrapositive statements. There is a discussion on the necessity of assumptions in proofs and the implications of density and boundedness.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original question, offering different proof strategies and clarifying the concepts involved. There is no explicit consensus, but various approaches are being considered.

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Some participants note the potential confusion between proof techniques and the implications of the properties of dense and bounded sets. The original post lacks specific examples or counterexamples to illustrate the concepts further.

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I have the following A\subset\mathbb{R}^{n} is dense then A isn't bounded. Is this true? I know that A is dense iff \bar{A}=\mathbb{R}^{n} and that A is bounded iff \exists \epsilon>0\mid B_{\epsilon}(0)\supset A. How to proof it? Or there is an counterexample?
 
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Try reductio ad absurdum (proof by contradiction).
 
It's slightly nicer to show that a bounded set in R cannot be dense. Many proofs by contradiction are unnecessary - i.e. you wish to show A implies B, so you assume A and not B and show not B implies not A, without any use of the assumption of A.
 
matt grime said:
It's slightly nicer to show that a bounded set in R cannot be dense. Many proofs by contradiction are unnecessary - i.e. you wish to show A implies B, so you assume A and not B and show not B implies not A, without any use of the assumption of A.

But you just said "Assume A"! Anyway, many people would consider proving the contrapositive to be "proof by contradiction".
 
What? The point was just make a constructive proof of the contrapositive statement without making an unnecessary preliminary assumption.
 
matt grime said:
What? The point was just make a constructive proof of the contrapositive statement without making an unnecessary preliminary assumption.

Yes, I see. As I read the original post, I said to myself "Well, they both can't be true (being dense and bounded)," and this placed proof by contradiction in my mind. Bot all that is needed is ~B (bounded), so contapositive gives a direct proof.
 
Thank you for the help!
 

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