Structure Validation: Softwares & Procedures

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The discussion revolves around the validation of protein structures obtained from various software tools, particularly focusing on the Protein Data Bank (PDB) structures. Participants explore different software and procedures for structure validation, including both computational and experimental methods.

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  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the ultimate validation of a protein structure would be through X-ray diffraction, noting the difficulty in predicting protein structures and the reliance on known structures for comparison.
  • Another participant mentions the use of bioinformatics tools to predict tertiary structures and emphasizes that a consensus among multiple prediction tools can lend validity to the predicted structure.
  • A link to a validation resource is provided by a participant, indicating a specific software or database for structure validation.
  • Discussion includes the importance of personal examination of structures, with one participant advocating for skepticism towards unverified structures and suggesting the use of tools like Swiss PDB Viewer for quick analyses.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of databases such as the Cambridge Structural Database for examining unusual features in structures and for understanding hydrogen bonding.
  • Reference is made to the CASP competitions as a resource for assessing protein structure prediction techniques.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the validation of protein structures, with no clear consensus on the best methods or tools. Some emphasize experimental validation while others focus on computational approaches, indicating a range of competing views.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of relying solely on computational predictions, noting the need for experimental confirmation and the variability in the reliability of different software tools.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for researchers and students in the fields of biochemistry, structural biology, and bioinformatics who are interested in protein structure validation techniques and the use of various software tools.

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What are the softwares/procedure used to validate the PDB Structure obtained from various softwares like Swiss Model ??
 
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The ultimate validation would be to make a crystal of the compound and do some X-ray diffraction. It is extremely difficult to predict the structure of proteins. Usually the information is taken from molecules, to which it is similar, from which the structure IS known.

So I guess you looked up a molecule in Swissprot and you want to compare it to another database.. I'd first find out how that original PDB structure was modeled..
 
One thing you can do using bioinformatics use different software for tertiary strucutre prediction and id the common structure. Expasy Protein Tools has several link to various tertiary structure predecition tools. If 90-100% of the predict a certain strucutre within a certain region, then prediction is kind of valid and is like to occur.

But as monique said the only confirmation you will get is with the X-ray diffraction or MNR.
 
My first rule when dealing with structures: Never trust one until you've examined it for yourself. If it doesn't make sense to you, there's nothing saying you have to accept it.

If you have a structure in .pdb format, a very quick and easy analysis can be done with Swiss PDB Viewer (which should still be free for download, no?). You can do a Ramachandran plot (and some other torsion angles), hydrogen bond lengths, bond lengths, check the surface, and the like. If you're actually working with an experimentally determined structure, there will be other information available (B factors, occupancies, R and R(free), and the like).

If you have unusual features in your predicted or determined structure, one thing that may be informative to do is to do a search of a small molecule database (e.g. Cambridge Structural Database) to see if such features crop up in small molecules. This is also really good for getting a handle on hydrogen bonding, since a number of the structures in the CSD are from neutron diffraction which is generally better in terms of being able to include hydrogens. Although exceptionally high resolution x-ray structures have been able to see hydrogens.

You of course have your own physical/chemical/biological intuition to work with in accessing a structure. How much mileage you get out of this will vary, of course.

You may want to take a look at the CASP competitions (Critical Assessment of techniques for protein Structure Prediction) which have been run for about 10 years now. They're currently on CASP6.

I have a separate but related rant for experimentally determined structures, but since that wasn't asked, I won't go into it.
 

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