Does the Sum of this Infinite Series Converge or Diverge?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the infinite series \(\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} x^{C-i}\), where \(C\) is a constant. Participants explore the conditions under which the series converges, including the implications of the value of \(x\) and its relationship to geometric series.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the convergence of the sum depends on the absolute value of \(x\).
  • It is noted that the sum can be rewritten in a form related to a geometric series, which has known convergence criteria.
  • One participant claims that if \(x\) is a whole number, the series diverges, but this is challenged by others.
  • Another participant clarifies that the series converges for all real \(x\) when \(|1/x| < 1\), implying \(|x| > 1\).
  • There is a discussion about manipulating the series to recognize it as a geometric series, with convergence conditions specified as \(x < -1\) or \(x > 1\).
  • One participant raises a question about the relationship between \(x^C\) and the sum, indicating that it depends on the values of \(X\) and \(x\).
  • There are differing opinions on the exact form of the sum, with participants suggesting different expressions and questioning each other's calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the convergence of the series based on the value of \(x\), and there is no consensus on the exact form of the sum or the conditions for convergence.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the convergence criteria depend on the manipulation of the series and the definitions used, but specific assumptions and mathematical steps remain unresolved.

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Does this sum converge of diverge? C is a constant

[itex]\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} x^{C-i}[/itex]

Is there an easy way to tell if something converges or diverges?
 
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Convergence of the given sum depends on the absolute value of x.

Note that you can rewrite your sum as x^(C)*Sum(i=1,inf)1/(x^(i))
But this is closely related to the well-known geometric series..
 
Ok if X is a whole number, it diverges right?
 
It is a geometric progression with initial term x^c and common ratio x^{-1} (arildno has a minus sign missing}

as such it converges for all reall x with |1/x|<1, ie |x|>1
 
Since C is a constant and the sum is over the index i, you can take xC out of the sum and get
[itex]x^C \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} x^{-i}[/itex]

You should now be able to recognize the remaining sum as a geometric series in (1/x) which converges for -1< 1/x < 1- that is, x< -1 or x> 1.
Convergence and divergence has nothing whatsoever to do with whether x is a whole number or not.
 
Ok here is my next question, is it possible that:

[itex]X^C < \sum_{i=1}^{\infty} X^{C-i}[/itex]
 
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That would depend on what X, and x are. As the sum is [tex]\frac{x^{C+1}}{1-1/x}[/tex] given that for the sum to make sense |x|>1. I'm sure you can do the manipulation.

edited to allow for the sum running from 1 to infinity, not 0 to infinity
 
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Hmm.., I thought the sum was x^(C)/(x-1)
 
it could well be, i get bored keeping track of the details. i now think it is x^{c-1}/(1-1/x), which was the second one i put in there and works out at x^c/(x-1) doesn't it?
 
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Sure, I thought it was merely a typo or someting.
 

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