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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of developing and testing a spacecraft that requires a Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator (RTG) for long-distance space travel, particularly to another star. Participants explore the implications of government regulations, safety concerns, and alternative approaches to circumvent these challenges.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration about the difficulties faced by privately-funded scientists in developing RTG-powered spacecraft, questioning the feasibility of using solar power or batteries instead.
  • Another suggests relocating development to a country that has not signed nuclear treaties as a potential workaround.
  • A different participant proposes the idea of buying an island and declaring it a nation to avoid nuclear regulations, mentioning the use of a dormant volcano for an Orion-based nuclear propulsion system.
  • Some participants note that many space probes have successfully used RTGs, citing the Cassini mission as an example, but highlight the regulatory hurdles that prevent non-governmental scientists in the US from accessing sufficient radioactive fuel.
  • Concerns are raised about the balance between government regulations aimed at public safety and national security, and the impact these regulations have on private innovation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility of private development of RTGs, with some acknowledging the successful use of RTGs in space missions while others emphasize the regulatory challenges that hinder such efforts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to navigate these challenges.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific regulatory frameworks and the lack of clarity on the implications of safety and security concerns related to nuclear technologies.

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What if we have a great idea for long distance space travel, perhaps even to another star, but the craft requires the use of a RTG for heat and long-lasting power.

How are we suppose to build something like this and test it, if we have to resort to using solar power or batteries? Just being a privately-funded, non-government scientist/inventor can be a real pain. :(

What would be my options, if any?
 
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Arctic Fox said:
What if we have a great idea for long distance space travel, perhaps even to another star, but the craft requires the use of a RTG for heat and long-lasting power.

How are we suppose to build something like this and test it, if we have to resort to using solar power or batteries? Just being a privately-funded, non-government scientist/inventor can be a real pain. :(

What would be my options, if any?

Find a country that didn't sign the nuke treaty and do your development there?
 
Or you could buy an island and declare it a nation, free from all nuclear-based treaties. Such a ploy would only work for a little while, but it would give you time to work. The island would either have to be secretive, or self-sufficient. A perfect idea, if you intend to utilize an Orion-based nuclear propulsion system, a hollowed out dormant volcano would suit you perfectly, since the energy used in the pulsed nuke-drive is similar to active vulcanism. Of course, the global gestapo red tapers will soon catch on.

Over and out.
 
Many space probes have used Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs) in the past. In fact, Cassini, set to enter Saturn orbit on July 1, is powered by three RTGs. What's the problem?
 
TALewis said:
Many space probes have used Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs) in the past. In fact, Cassini, set to enter Saturn orbit on July 1, is powered by three RTGs. What's the problem?


In the US, a non-governmental scientist cannot own enough radioactive fuel to power one of these without going through enough red tape as to make the project un-fundable. The US government is so paranoid about terrorist that even model rocketry is being hampered. For standard aerospace technologies, this is a near impossible field of study.
 
Ah, that is more clear. I wish there was an easy answer. If government regulations stifle private innovation, that's not a good thing. But aren't there substantial public safety / national security concerns compelling?
 

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