Partial Differential Equation Solving: Using Variable Change Method

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific partial differential equation (PDE) using various methods, including variable changes and separation of variables. Participants explore different approaches to find solutions and share their insights on the problem.

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  • One participant presents a PDE and applies a change of variables to transform it, expressing uncertainty about how to proceed with the solution.
  • Another participant suggests using a separation of variables approach, proposing a solution of the form u(x,y)=f(x)g(y).
  • A different participant introduces a "running wave" substitution, leading to a linear ordinary differential equation (ODE) and mentions that there are multiple ways to reduce the PDE.
  • Another participant outlines a general solution using separation of variables, detailing the steps and the resulting functions, while noting that negative values of a constant will yield trigonometric functions.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the assistance and indicates that they have solved the problem.

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Participants present multiple competing views and methods for solving the PDE, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach or whether a single solution is definitive.

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Some methods proposed depend on specific substitutions and assumptions, and the discussion includes various forms of solutions that may be suitable under different conditions.

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hi all
i have been trying to solve to following problem,

[tex] \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} - \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial y^2}<br /> + 2\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + u = 0[/tex]

[tex] u=u(x,y)[/tex]

after a bit of work using the change of variables

[tex] \zeta=\zeta(x,y)=y-x[/tex]

and

[tex] \eta=\eta(x,y)=y+x[/tex]

i obtain

[tex]- 4\frac{\partial u}{\partial \zeta \partial \eta} = 2\frac{\partial u}{\partial\zeta} - 2\frac{\partial u}{\partial\eta}-u[/tex]

but i am unsure how to solve this, i used maple to solve this problem and it gave out a fairly harmless answer so i am pretty sure there would be any easy way to solve the above equation.

could someone kindly show me how to obtain a solution to this problem
 
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I would suggest a separation of variables solution,
u(x,y)=f(x)g(y)
 
Hi;
The first substitution to use is "running wave" substitution:
[tex] z=x-ct[/tex]
and you will have:
[tex] \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} - \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial y^2}<br /> + 2\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + u = 0[/tex]
[tex] u_{xx}-u_{yy}+2u_x+u=0[/tex]
[tex] z=x-ct[/tex]
[tex] u_{zz}-c^2u_{zz}+2u_z+u=0[/tex]
[tex] (1-c^2)u_{zz}+2u_z+u=0[/tex]
The last equation is a linear ODE of the 2nd order while c<>+1 and c<>-1. Otherwise we have the first order ODE
[tex] 2u_z+u=0[/tex]
Anyways both equations are simple and can be solved easily.
Still, this is not the only way of reduction of the given PDE (there could be another substitutions v=v(u,x,y), z=z(u,x,y) that will give us ordinary DEs). If you need some other forms for v and z, let me know, I can find some for you.
Best of luck,
Max.
 
Here's a rather general solution using separation of variables:

1.
[tex]u(x,y)=f(x)g(y)\to\frac{f''+2f'+f}{f}=\frac{g''}{g}[/tex]

2. Since LHS is a function of x, wheras RHS is a function of y, equality is only possible if they are equal to some constant k.
I set a subscript k on the functions at this moment:
[tex]\frac{f_{k}''+2f_{k}'+f_{k}}{f_{k}}=k\to{f}_{k}(x)=A_{k}e^{-x-\sqrt{k}x}+B_{k}e^{-x+\sqrt{k}x}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{g_{k}''}{g_{k}}=k\to{g}_{k}(x)=C_{k}e^{-\sqrt{k}y}+D_{k}e^{\sqrt{k}y}[/tex]

3. Since the original differential equation is linear, a sum of two solutions (for example, for different k-values) is also a solution, and we may write:

[tex]u(x,y)=[/tex]
[tex]e^{-x}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\mathcal{C}_{(k,+)}Cosh(\sqrt{k}(x+y))+\mathcal{C}_{(k,-)}Cosh(\sqrt{k}(x-y))dk+[/tex]
[tex]e^{-x}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\mathcal{S}_{(k,+)}Sinh(\sqrt{k}(x+y))+\mathcal{S}_{(k,-)}Sinh(\sqrt{k}(x-y))dk[/tex]

4. Negative values of k will yield trigonometric functions; the unknown functions of k,
[tex]\mathcal{C}_{(k,+)},\mathcal{C}_{(k,-)},\mathcal{S}_{(k,+)},\mathcal{S}_{(k,-)}[/tex]
may be suited to satisfy boundary conditions.
 
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thanks for your help guys
i have the problem solved
 

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