How Does Charge Direction Affect Acceleration in an Electric Field?

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The discussion revolves around how the direction of charge affects its acceleration in an electric field created by a battery connected to two plates. Participants explore the energy gained or lost by a charge moving between these plates under different configurations of the battery, focusing on the implications of charge direction and electric field orientation.

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  • One participant calculates the energy gained by a charge of 16.0 [C] moving through a 12 [V] battery as 192 J, questioning whether the charge speeds up or slows down depending on the battery configuration.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the direction of the electric field and the force it imparts to the positive charge, indicating uncertainty about the visual representation provided.
  • There is a discussion about the battery configurations, with one participant noting that in configuration a, the positive terminal is connected to the top plate and the negative to the bottom, while in configuration b, the connections are reversed.
  • A later reply suggests that the force vectors point in opposite directions for the two configurations, leading to the conclusion that the charge accelerates in one case and decelerates in the other, depending on the direction of the electric field relative to the charge's motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the direction of the electric field and its effects on the charge's motion. There is no consensus on the implications of the battery configurations, as participants present differing interpretations of how the charge behaves in each scenario.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the visual representation of the electric field and battery connections, which may affect participants' understanding of the problem. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interpretation of energy gain and loss in the context of charge movement.

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1. A charge of 16.0 [C] moves from the top plate to the bottom plate in the structure shown
below. A 12 [V] car battery is connected between the two metal plates. Find the amount of
energy that the charge picks up in moving from the top plate to the bottom plate in each part
below. Indicate whether the charge will be speeding up or slowing down as it moves from the
top plate to the bottom plate.


This one is easy though. I just do 12 x 16 = 192J. But my question is how I know if it's speeding up or speeding down? a) has a battery connected to two plates. Negative to the bottom and positive to the top b) negative to the top and positive to the bottom plate.
b) is -192 J because it's "reversed" ?
 
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XodoX said:
1. A charge of 16.0 [C] moves from the top plate to the bottom plate in the structure shown
below. A 12 [V] car battery is connected between the two metal plates. Find the amount of
energy that the charge picks up in moving from the top plate to the bottom plate in each part
below. Indicate whether the charge will be speeding up or slowing down as it moves from the
top plate to the bottom plate.


This one is easy though. I just do 12 x 16 = 192J. But my question is how I know if it's speeding up or speeding down? a) has a battery connected to two plates. Negative to the bottom and positive to the top b) negative to the top and positive to the bottom plate.
b) is -192 J because it's "reversed" ?

Which way is the Electric field pointing between the plates? What force does this E field impart to the positive 16C charge? Force produces acceleration...
 


berkeman said:
Which way is the Electric field pointing between the plates? What force does this E field impart to the positive 16C charge? Force produces acceleration...

I don't know. That is why I am asking. THe picture doesn't tell me.
 


XodoX said:
I don't know. That is why I am asking. THe picture doesn't tell me.

The picture does not show + and - symbols on the battery? Can you post a link?
 


Yes, it does. That's what I said in the first posting though. Battery a has + connected to the top plate and -connected to the bottom plate. Battery b has - connected to the top and + to the bottom plate of battery b.

That's what I meant by "reversed". So Battery b is - because the flow is pointing to a different direction?
 


XodoX said:
Yes, it does. That's what I said in the first posting though. Battery a has + connected to the top plate and -connected to the bottom plate. Battery b has - connected to the top and + to the bottom plate of battery b.

That's what I meant by "reversed". So Battery b is - because the flow is pointing to a different direction?

Ah, I missed that before. So the force vectors point in opposite directions in the two parts. Since the + charge is moving in the direction of the E field in part a), and opposite to E in part b), then yes, in one case it is picking up energy (accelerating), and in the other is is losing energy (decelerating).
 

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