Shake it to Light: The Magic of Mechanoluminescence

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The discussion revolves around the concept of mechanoluminescence, specifically exploring whether there are liquids that emit light when shaken, and the mechanisms behind such phenomena. Participants also touch upon related topics such as triboluminescence and bioluminescence, comparing different light-emitting processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about a liquid that glows when shaken, suggesting a desire for a self-contained light source without additional components.
  • Another participant mentions lightsticks as a one-time use example of light emission through a chemical reaction triggered by shaking.
  • A claim is made regarding pure LSD crystals glowing in solution when shaken, although the legality of such a search is noted as a concern.
  • There is a suggestion that the glow from the crystals could be due to a piezo effect, which generates electricity through friction, possibly leading to electroluminescence.
  • A participant proposes that triboluminescence, which involves both piezoelectric and electroluminescent effects, may be the correct term for the phenomenon being discussed.
  • Another participant clarifies that triboluminescence typically occurs in solids rather than solutions.
  • Mechanoluminescence is suggested as a more appropriate term for the inquiry into light emission from shaking liquids.
  • Bioluminescent organisms, such as certain bacteria and algae, are mentioned as examples of life forms that emit light when disturbed, particularly during phenomena like red tides.
  • A distinction is made between bioluminescence and the chemical processes involved, highlighting the role of luciferin and luciferase in producing light.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about fluorescent proteins, mentioning ferredoxin and green fluorescent protein as examples of bioluminescent molecules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the mechanisms of light emission, with some agreeing on the definitions of terms like triboluminescence and mechanoluminescence, while others introduce different examples and concepts, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the original inquiry about a liquid that glows when shaken.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their knowledge regarding the specifics of bioluminescent chemistry and the conditions under which different light-emitting phenomena occur. There is also uncertainty about the applicability of certain terms to liquids versus solids.

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Is there some kind of liquid that glows when you shake it, then shines for a while and fades away (mechanic energy to light without anything else needed except a bottle of that liquid)?
 
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I know there's something that comes really close and is known as a "lightstick". But it is a one time use device. It usually involves a thin-walled glass capsule containing a chemical reagent inside an outer container. When you shake the container, the capsule breaks, releasing the reagent into the outer case which has another chemical. The reaction that take place results in emission of light.

If you want a repeatably useable device, there are flashlights (torches) that can be charged by shaking them. Here's an example :
http://www.sailgb.com/sshop/prod_info.asp?PID=801
 
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I've read that pure LSD crystals will glow in solution when you shake them...

Of course this would be impossible and highly illegal to search for..
 
The crystals must be due to a piezo effect, electricity created by the friction.. electro luminescense?
 
Monique, do you mean triboluminescence - which is a combination of the piezoelectric effect and electroluminescence ?
 
Ah right, that's the optical phenomenon where light is generated via friction right?
Tribein (greek) = to rub, lumin (latin) = light :biggrin:

I think it only works for solids though, and not solutions.
 
Mechanoluminescence is probably a more appropriate term for the question..
 
There are bioluminescent bacteria or algea that light up when the water that they're in is perturbed. If you go to the ocean at night during a red tide it can be quite spectacular.
 
Bioluminescense is a different kind of chemistry, it is actually the reaction between a luciferin substrate and a luciferase enzyme that produces that light. Not any less spectacular though :)
 
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This is way out of my league, but I think I recall something about a fluorescent protein, probably ferredoxin, or something like that ?
 
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Ferrodoxin is an electron carrier used by organisms in redox reactions. There are many many bioluminescent molecules, the green fluorescent protein from the jelly fish Aequorea victoria.. you have fireflies, bacteria, sea pansies, the list is long :)
 

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