Is the Adherence Condition Still Valid in Turbulent Flow?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the validity of the adherence condition (u=0 at the wall) in turbulent flow within the context of fluid mechanics. Participants explore whether this condition holds true when considering turbulent regimes and the behavior of boundary layers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the applicability of the adherence condition in turbulent flow, particularly in relation to boundary layer separation and vortex formation near the wall.
  • Another participant asserts that it is still valid to impose u=0 at the wall in turbulent flow.
  • There is a request for clarification regarding the initial statement, indicating some confusion about the topic being discussed.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their own understanding and suggests that they may have misunderstood the concept.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the validity of the adherence condition in turbulent flow, with some asserting it remains applicable while others question this stance.

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There are indications of confusion and potential language barriers affecting the clarity of the discussion. The initial statement's complexity may contribute to differing interpretations among participants.

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Individuals interested in fluid mechanics, particularly those studying turbulent flow and boundary layer theory, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hey I came into a doubt in the classical physics forums, and I want to know if I said something stupid.

Usually we employ in Fluid Mechanics the adherence condition (u=0 just on the wall, where fluid and solid meets; u=velocity field). But I'm not sure if in turbulent regimenes this keeps on being correct. Sure that boundary layer separates from the wall, or it is formed a turbulent one. Imagine a vortex near wall, do you think I can impose u=0 at the wall?
 
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That statement is very convoluted.. can u clarify it?... do you need help translating.. tpye it in spanish

Esa declaración es muy complicada.. lo puede lo clarifica? ... lo hace necesita traducir de ayuda.. lo escribe en español. I can understand it better than i can type it, but that should get the point across
 
Sorry I missed this earlier, Clausius.

Yes, you can still impose u=0 at the wall in a turbulent flow.
 
KrazyIBKid said:
That statement is very convoluted.. can u clarify it?... do you need help translating.. tpye it in spanish

Esa declaración es muy complicada.. lo puede lo clarifica? ... lo hace necesita traducir de ayuda.. lo escribe en español. I can understand it better than i can type it, but that should get the point across

:smile: My english is disappointing, but your spanish is the worst!. Anyway, Enigma seems to understand me after all. If what you are saying is true, it is certain I have said something stupid. See this thread:

www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=34511
 
got it.. and yes my spanish is crap i know... but u got what i meant.. like i said i understand it better than i write it
 

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