Does Soda Water Bubbling Depend on Temperature?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the effects of temperature on the bubbling of soda water when subjected to freezing and subsequent melting. Participants explore the theoretical implications of carbon dioxide solubility in relation to temperature changes and the freezing process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the carbonic acid (H2CO3) behaves differently during the freezing process and suggests that it may freeze earlier due to its heavier molecular weight.
  • Another participant argues that when the soda water is placed in an open vessel, the carbon dioxide (CO2) would dissipate, leading to a loss of fizziness as the solubility of CO2 decreases with reduced pressure and temperature.
  • A different viewpoint is presented, noting that the solubility of gases generally increases with decreasing temperature, suggesting that freezing may not eliminate all dissolved CO2. This participant shares personal experience of freezing Coke and finding it still fizzy after thawing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of CO2 in soda water when frozen and thawed, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus on the outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of pressure changes and the specific conditions under which the soda water is frozen, leaving some assumptions unaddressed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the physical chemistry of gases, the behavior of carbonated beverages under temperature changes, or those curious about practical experiments with freezing liquids may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all,
today someone asked me a very simple question:
"If I have some soda water, and put it in the deep-freeze in an open vessel, so as to make ice, and take it out again later, and let the ice melt,
will the water bubble as before? Or not?"

Of course I said, "Try it!". But I'd like some theoretical background. Obviously, the water bubbles because of the H2CO3 dissolving into H2O + CO2. So the question is, what happens to the H2CO3 when the water starts to freeze. One should expect that the H2CO3 freezes earlier because the molecule is heavier, and thus is conserved. But you never know...

Any help? Thx...
 
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You said in an "open vessel" so I'm assuming you're pouring it out from it's original container into something else.

The CO2 I think would dissipate and you'd be left with frozen water. Water can hold so much CO2 at normal pressures and temperatures. When you reduce the pressure (ie. you open the bottle), AND you reduce the temperature of its surroundings, the solubility of the gas becomes VERY low...So all the gas should be gone!
 
Solubility of gases increases with decreasing temperature. Heating water is a good way to start degassing. That's why you get clear ice cubes from freezing hot tap water.

I have frozen Coke before and it is still fizzy after thawing (doesn't taste right though).
 
Thanks. :smile:
 

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