Is Measuring Bubbles a Reliable Method for Determining Carbonic Acid Levels?

In summary, the conversation discusses the measurement of carbonic acid in fizzy drinks and how it can be a bit ambiguous. The speaker suggests measuring the amount of bubbles lost by the drink as a more well-defined property. They also mention the difficulties in accurately measuring the ratio between dissolved CO2 and H2CO2, as well as the impact of pH and atmospheric pressure on the amount of CO2 that can be released.
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nibbel11
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Hello everyone

I am doing some research about carbonic acid in fizzy drinks. I hope to find out how much carbonic acid was in the drink by looking how much CO2 bubbles come loose. but later I thought that there are two reactions that can take place:

H2CO3 --> H2O + CO2
H2CO3 --> H+ + HCO3-

because both of these can take place does my plan still work, if not is there another way to find out how much is in the drink.
 
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"How much carbonic acid" is a bit ambiguous, as it depends on what you mean by that.

Solutions contain dissolved CO2 in equilibrium with H2CO2 (and the ratio between these two is rather difficult to measure, so we typically treat them as a single entity), plus - depending on pH - different amounts of HCO3- and CO32-. To make things even more difficult, amount of CO2 that the solution can release depends on the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere above.

Your definition of "how much carbonic acid" must take all these into account.

"Amount of bubbles lost by the drink" is a well defined (or rather - can be well defined, when you unambiguously describe how it is measured) property of a drink, so measuring it is a reasonable thing to do. Just don't call it "amount of carbonic acid".
 
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Maybe you should measure in moles per litre.
Or grams per litre.
 
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Borek said:
"How much carbonic acid" is a bit ambiguous, as it depends on what you mean by that.

Solutions contain dissolved CO2 in equilibrium with H2CO2 (and the ratio between these two is rather difficult to measure, so we typically treat them as a single entity), plus - depending on pH - different amounts of HCO3- and CO32-. To make things even more difficult, amount of CO2 that the solution can release depends on the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere above.

Your definition of "how much carbonic acid" must take all these into account.

"Amount of bubbles lost by the drink" is a well defined (or rather - can be well defined, when you unambiguously describe how it is measured) property of a drink, so measuring it is a reasonable thing to do. Just don't call it "amount of carbonic acid".
alright thank you
 

What is carbonic acid?

Carbonic acid is a weak acid that is formed when carbon dioxide dissolves in water. It has the chemical formula H2CO3 and is responsible for the acidity of many carbonated beverages.

What are the properties of carbonic acid?

Carbonic acid is a colorless, odorless, and tasteless compound. It is a weak acid with a pH of around 3.7 and it readily dissociates into water and carbon dioxide gas.

How is carbonic acid formed?

Carbonic acid is formed when carbon dioxide gas dissolves in water. This can happen naturally in bodies of water or artificially in the production of carbonated beverages.

What is the role of carbonic acid in the environment?

Carbonic acid plays a crucial role in regulating the pH of the oceans. It also plays a role in the weathering of rocks and minerals, helping to break them down over time.

Is carbonic acid harmful to humans?

In small amounts, carbonic acid is not harmful to humans. It is found in many carbonated beverages and is generally considered safe to consume. However, in high concentrations, it can be corrosive to the skin and eyes.

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