The Human Body's Internal Clock: How Does It Keep Time?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanisms by which the human body perceives and keeps track of time, including the ability to count and the biological processes involved. Participants explore both the cognitive aspects of counting and the physiological mechanisms related to circadian rhythms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the ability to count is a learned behavior rather than a natural ability, relying on memory and repetition.
  • Others argue that counting and telling time are distinct processes, with timekeeping linked to biological mechanisms involving pacemaker cells and clock genes.
  • A participant mentions the suprachiasmatic nucleus as the "master" pacemaker in the brain, which regulates the body's internal clock, while acknowledging that other cells may also have pacemaker functions.
  • There is a call for further exploration into the undefined natural ability related to counting and its origins.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether counting is an innate ability or a learned skill, indicating a lack of consensus on the nature of counting and its relationship to time perception.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the biological mechanisms of timekeeping are based on recent studies, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how these mechanisms interact with cognitive processes like counting.

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I was just curious as to what mechanism in our body tells time. How is it that we can count 1,2,3,4,5,6,ect to a moderate accuracy? I would guess it gaugues something harmonic, but what do I know. Any help would be Grrrreat!
 
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I'm going to guess we have no natural ability to count 1, 2, 3 etc. and that we just learn the pattern of seconds by repetition and memory.
 
right, natural ability... stemming from?

And yes, I do believe the ability to count does come from memory, because we compute units like seconds and minutes only after we learn them.

But like I said, this natural ability is undefined thus far, any ideas anyone?
 
Telling time is entirely different from counting skills. The mechanism for telling time involves pacemaker cells...cells in which clock genes function in a series of events that maintains a 24 hour rhythm. One home for these cells is in the brain...a place called the suprachiasmatic nucleus (named because it sits just above the optic chiasm, which makes sense since these cells also receive information from the retina, another place with pacemaker cells). The suprachiasmatic nucleus is considered the "master" pacemaker for the body, and that in turn tells the other cells of the body how to keep time. Though, recent studies suggest that other cells in the body can be pacemakers too. All cells that have pacemaker function have a certain complement of these clock genes, and clock proteins translated from these genes that confer this function.

There's an excellent animation that illustrates this at this site:
http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/animations/mol_mod_mamm/mamm_frames.htm
 
Mattius_ said:
right, natural ability... stemming from?
I said I think that we have no natural ability to count in the rhythm of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc. and that it's just a learned ability.
 

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