Why are tears associated with sadness?

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The discussion revolves around the association of tears with sadness, exploring the reasons behind crying as a response to strong emotions. Participants examine the emotional, psychological, and evolutionary aspects of crying, considering both sadness and happiness as triggers.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that tears are commonly associated with sadness because people tend to cry when upset, as seen in both children and adults.
  • One participant references Aristotle's theory of catharsis, proposing that crying may help cleanse the mind of suppressed emotions.
  • Another viewpoint mentions the different types of tears (basal, reflex, and emotional) and notes that emotional tears contain unique hormones and proteins, though the reasons for these differences remain unclear.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the inability to cry on demand and the phenomenon of crying out of happiness.
  • One participant posits that crying may serve as a means of emotional relief, suggesting it helps alleviate mental pressure.
  • Another raises the idea that crying could be an evolutionary remnant from a time when verbal expression was less developed.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of body language in communication, with some arguing that it plays a significant role alongside verbal communication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the reasons for crying and its emotional significance, with no clear consensus on the underlying mechanisms or evolutionary implications. Multiple competing perspectives remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the emotional and physiological aspects of crying depend on assumptions about human behavior and evolutionary psychology, which are not universally accepted or resolved in the discussion.

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Why are tears associated with sadness?
 
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Why are tears associated with sadness?

Are you asking for an opinion?

In the everyday world, it's likely associated with sadness because when you're extremely upset, you cry.

As a child or baby, if you're sad/upset, you usually cry.

As an adult, if you're upset enough over a death or another tragedy, you usually cry.

Obviously, some people cry out of joy or happiness. However, I doubt as many people have cried when they are happy than when they were upset. I haven't met anyone who cries when they are happy, but almost everyone I've met have cried when they were upset, sad or frustrated.

Sadness is associated with crying probably because that's when most people cry.

Anyways, that was just completely my opinion. :shy:

Here are some others that are a lot more factual:


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The belief that crying has positive effects is of ancient origin;. More than two thousand years ago, Aristotle theorized that crying at a drama "cleanses the mind" of suppressed emotions by a process called catharsis: the reduction of distress by releasing the emotions. Many people attend movies and plays that they know beforehand are, shall we say, "elicitors of psychogenic lacrimation," or tearjerkers. Such people may cry freely in movies and may delight in the experience.

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We make three kinds of tears: Basal tears for simple eyeball lubrication, reflex tears to wash away irritants (onion fumes, debris specks, or hits to the eye), and emotional tears. Weeping tears contain various hormones that the other tears don't and 20 to 25 percent more protein. We don't know why emotional tears differ but it's interesting that they do. These tears may wash the body clean of wastes.
 
Isn't it strange though? Crying? Why the tears? Strange you can't cry on demand. Strange that you can cry out of happiness.. :confused:
 
Crying I think is a means to help ourselves when we are sad or in distress. It relieves the pressure off your mind up to a certain extent. Who doesn't feel better after a good cry?

Maybe it's origins can be pinpointed by looking at evolution?

Monique said:
Strange you can't cry on demand. Strange that you can cry out of happiness.. :confused:

Well, well, I can assure you that some can cry on demand! I believe that kids sometimes cry when they want to (not because they are sad ...) because they get used to getting attention when they cry. So whenever they want attention they cry. And I've known some women to cry on demand! (NB: this statement is not meant to be of any discriminative nature.)
 
The few instances I caused my mother to cry instilled great feelings of regret in me - her tears effectively signalled a loving need for me to stay out of trouble, to stay safe.

When I cry, it is usually over the heroic deeds of others, like one sacrificing their life for another; elsewise, from the fear of being ganged up upon.
 
why then, do people cry during times of strong emotion?
how does the brain work in this?
 
is crying possibly a way for the body to expel excess chemicals that would otherwise go to heightening an emotion? to relieve pain, or control happiness etc
 
Some scientists claim that tears are a remnant from the time we could not express ourselves with words. So how ridiculous would it be if we evolved to a level where crying was not necessary, we would only need to express ourselves with words?

Crying is healthy nevertheless if it is sadness or happiness.
 
Actually even though we are evolved enough to be using words to express ourselves, we still rely heavily on body language to communicate. In fact, body language accounts for 55% of http://www.3m.com/meetingnetwork/readingroom/meetingguide_nonverbal.html as a whole and words along with the tone of voice, the remaining 45%, with words themselves only representing 7%!
 
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Yea, I am not an evolutionist, but I agree that the body language is an important part of our communication and without it, it would be not much of a rich life.
 
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The same way we use smilies on a forum or during chatting.
Its somewhat of an alternative body.
 

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