How does a maglev train get on-board power?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on how maglev trains obtain onboard power and the implications for wireless communication in the presence of magnetic fields. It explores the mechanisms of power generation and transmission in maglev systems, as well as potential interference with communication technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the source of energy for lights and controls in a moving maglev train, given its free-floating nature.
  • Another participant suggests that induction from coils under the track can generate current for the train, similar to a transformer.
  • A participant describes the Transrapid maglev system, stating that linear generators integrated into support magnets supply power without requiring wiring.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of the train's magnetic field on wireless communications, with one participant noting that the field strength is relatively low and unlikely to interfere significantly.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the term "windings" in relation to inductors and their role in increasing magnetic strength.
  • Another participant explains the concept of inductors and how the number of windings affects magnetic strength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple viewpoints on the mechanisms of power generation and the effects of magnetic fields on communication, indicating that there is no consensus on these topics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about specific technical terms and concepts, such as "windings," and the implications of magnetic fields on wireless signals remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring maglev technology, electrical engineering concepts, and the interaction between magnetic fields and communication systems.

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Greetings, I'm a physics newbie with a simple (?) question. If it's free-floating, where does the energy come from to power the lights, controls, etc. inside a moving maglev train?

Another related question, if data needs to be transmitted to a moving maglev train, can it be done through conventional wireless communications? I was thinking that a strong magnetic field might interfere with a wireless signal, but then I thought that only charged particles would be deflected by a magnetic field. Can anyone tell me if my thinking is on the right 'track'. :wink:
 
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Induction: a coil under the track near a coil on the train induces a current flow just like in a transformer.

For radio comms, the magnets wouldn't affect it unless the coils generate their own radio signal (of course, if they do, you could modulate that signal to carry data).

Welcome aboard!
 
russ_watters said:
Induction: a coil under the track near a coil on the train induces a current flow just like in a transformer.

For radio comms, the magnets wouldn't affect it unless the coils generate their own radio signal (of course, if they do, you could modulate that signal to carry data).

Welcome aboard!


Russ Thanks! and it's great to be here!
 
I'm telling you my understandings from Maglev system Transrapid (TR07):
first question: the linear generators intergrated into the support magnets supply power for the train, so no wiring is required.
second question: The magnetic field produced by the train is about 100 µTesla (just double stronger than Earth's magnetic field), therefore its impact on passengers as well as radio comm system is extremely small.
 
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Hi Russ_watter,
I appreciate your explanation.
The term "windings" is rather vague to me, so could you help me to get the right understanding of it.
Thank so much!
 
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An inductor is a coil of wire that can become an electromagnet when electrical current flows through the wire. In effect it stores magnetic energy like a capacitor stores electrical energy.

To increase its magnetic strength, you could pass more electrical current (which creates more heat) or you could make it a bigger coil where the wire is going to wrap around a few more times.

To get the wire in a nice coil, typically a winding machine is used to arrange the wire so it is placed nice and neatly to maximize the amount of wire in a given space (to make it even more effective). Hence the term winding, its the number of times the wire is wrapped around inside the coil. So adding more windings is a way to increase the strength of the magnet (all other things being equal).

Cliff
 
Thank you Cliff for your explantion!
 

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