Graphing x=y-y^2 to Understanding and Visualizing the Equation

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The discussion revolves around graphing the equation x = y - y², which is a quadratic relation. Participants are exploring how to visualize this equation and understand its characteristics, including its vertex and intercepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the graph, with one suggesting it resembles a parabola and another questioning the vertex calculation. There are inquiries about how to input the equation into a graphing calculator and different methods for doing so.

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Some participants have provided insights into the graph's properties, such as its vertex and intercepts, while others are seeking clarification on how to graph it using a calculator. Multiple approaches to graphing the equation are being explored, but no consensus has been reached on the best method.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the vertex and the method of graphing, with participants referencing their own understanding and calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculus skills, which may influence the discussion's direction.

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graph this please?

How do I graph x=y-y^2? what would it look like? my calc is extremely rusty so if you can help me out, that'd be great. Thanks!
 
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It's a parabola with a vertex at (0.75, 0.5). It crosses the x-axis at x = 0 and it crosses the y-axis at y = 0 and y = 1. Can you take it from there?
 
I don't get the vertex that Tide did.
The "base" parabola, of the form x=y2 (or y= x2) has vertex at (0,0) because if x is not 0, x2 is positive and not below 0. x=y-y2 is not a "perfect square" but you can complete the square: x= -(y2- y+ 1/4) +1/4 (half of the coefficient of y is -1/2 and the square of that is 1/4 so I add and subtract 1/4. When I take the -1/4 out of the parentheses, it is multiplied by that leading -1). The point of that is that -(y2- y+ 1/4)= -(y- 1/2)2, a perfect square.
We now have x= -(y- 1/2)2+ 1/4. If y= 1/2, then x= 1/4 (not 3/4). If y is any other number, (y-1/2)2 is positive so -(y-1/2)2 is negative and x is less than 1/4. The vertex is (1/4, 1/2). Of course, its easy to see, since x= y- y2= y(1- y), that if y= 0 or 1, x is 0. Knowing that the parabola passes through (0,1), (1/4,0), and (0,0) and x is never larger than 1/4 should make it easy to draw.
 
Note to self: [itex]\frac {1}{2} - \frac {1}{4} = \frac {1}{4}[/itex]

(Thanks, Halls!)
 
how would i enter this in a graphics calculator to graph it?
 
There are two ways to do that

(a) Interchange the labels x and y and enter them into your calculator recognizing that the x-axis on your display is really the y-axis and likewise for the y axis.

(b) Solve your original equation for y in terms of x and plot each of the two equations on the same graph.
 
Tide said:
There are two ways to do that

(a) Interchange the labels x and y and enter them into your calculator recognizing that the x-axis on your display is really the y-axis and likewise for the y axis.

(b) Solve your original equation for y in terms of x and plot each of the two equations on the same graph.

so if i use option b, i graph y=x and y=1-x ?
 
No, you solve the quadratic equation [itex]y^2-y + x = 0[/itex] for y and plot the two y's that you get from that.
 

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