Light Ray Problem: Reflection & Refraction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of light rays at the boundaries between different media, specifically focusing on reflection and refraction when transitioning from air to glass and air to water. Participants explore various angles of incidence and their effects on light behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether refraction or reflection occurs when a light ray strikes a boundary at a 90-degree angle.
  • There is a suggestion that at an angle of incidence of 0 degrees, there may be a weak reflection, though it is not typically noticeable.
  • One participant asserts that refraction occurs only when the incident ray is at an angle, but acknowledges the presence of a weak refracted ray even when the light is normal to the surface.
  • Another participant claims that partial reflection occurs, with percentages varying between 4% to 16%, and relates this to quantum physics.
  • There is uncertainty expressed regarding the behavior of light transitioning from air to water compared to air to glass, with some participants suggesting both reflection and refraction may occur.
  • One participant mentions that while there is no bending of the light ray at normal incidence, it is still referred to as a refracted ray.
  • Discussion includes mention of Fresnel reflections and the impact of antireflection coatings on glass surfaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of reflection and refraction at different angles of incidence, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about light behavior at boundaries, as well as the dependence on definitions of reflection and refraction. Some mathematical steps and specific conditions are not fully resolved.

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1. If a light ray go through a boundary of air and glass(i.e. angle of incidence is 90 degree), Is there any refraction or reflection?
2. If angle of incidence is 0 degree( the light ray is normal to a glass), Is there any reflection?
3. Suppose the situation is same as (2), but the light ray go from air to water. Is there any refraction or reflection?
 
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1. Light can either go through the air next to the glass, or the glass next to the air. There's no such thing as a boundary that can be traveled through. So I guess if you do it very accruately, the answer depends on where you enter the glass from air.
2. Yes. A very weak one. You don't see it, however, because it coincides with light beam that is traveling towards the glass block.
3. Whenever something is going normal to the surface, then it won't have any refraction. Refraction occurs only when the incident ray is at an angle to the surface. However, there will be a (weak, very weak) refracted ray.
 
1. Yes, there is refration and reflection. If you look at a piece of blass in front of you, you will see the stuff behind it and you will also see a faint mirror image of yourself. This is called partial reflection, and it has a LOT to to with quantum physics. It wanges anywhere from 4% to 16%. But this is a long stody.
2. Look at my answer to number 1.
3. Water, I am not shure of. I am not shure if the same phenomenon happens as in glass, but by experience, it seems to me that there is both.
 
1. Yes, there is still reflection. There is no refraction in the sense that the light ray does not bend, however it is still generally referred to as a refracted ray.

2. The Fresnel reflections from an air glass interface is about 4%. Antireflection coatings on the surface of the glass can reduce this to well below 0.01%.

3. Yes, anywhere where the refractive index changes abruptly, there will be significant reflection and refraction effects.

Claude.
 

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