Complex Analysis: Nonlinear system

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The discussion revolves around a problem in complex analysis involving the equations derived from the condition w² = z, where z = x + iy and w = u + iv. Participants are exploring the implications of these equations and the cases that arise from different values of y.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to analyze the problem under different cases for y, specifically y = 0 and y ≠ 0. There is mention of using complex exponential form and the implications of the second equation derived from the system. Questions arise regarding the validity of solutions and the necessity of substituting back into the original equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered methods and insights, such as exploring the complex exponential form and addressing the equivalence of derived equations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note the importance of ensuring non-negative values for certain variables and the potential for false solutions arising from the derived equations. The discussion is framed within the constraints of a homework problem, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of assumptions and definitions.

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Here's a problem I ran into in complex analysis. Given z = x + iy and w = u + iv, I need to find all w such that w² = z. It reduces to solving this system:

x = u² - v²
y = 2uv

My professor mentioned that we should try to deal with the problem in at least two cases: y = 0, and y does not equal 0 (perhaps the second case should also be split up into a few cases). But beyond the y = 0 case, I'm stuck. Can anyone help?
 
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arunma said:
Here's a problem I ran into in complex analysis. Given z = x + iy and w = u + iv, I need to find all w such that w² = z. It reduces to solving this system:

x = u² - v²
y = 2uv

My professor mentioned that we should try to deal with the problem in at least two cases: y = 0, and y does not equal 0 (perhaps the second case should also be split up into a few cases). But beyond the y = 0 case, I'm stuck. Can anyone help?

Why don't you try writing the complex numbers in complex exponential form form?
 
The second equation implies:
[tex]y^{2}=4u^{2}v^{2}[/tex]
which is equivalent to (when substituting from the first equation):
[tex]4(v^{2})^{2}+4x(v^{2})-y^{2}=0[/tex]
Or:
[tex]v^{2}=\frac{-4x\pm\sqrt{16x^{2}+16y^{2}}}{8}=\frac{-x\pm{r}}{2},r=\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}[/tex]
Comments:
1. Clearly, only non-negative values are acceptable for [tex]v^{2}[/tex]
This means that we, for all x, have: [tex]v^{2}=\frac{r-x}{2}[/tex]
2. Even more important, the equations:
[tex]y=2uv[/tex],[tex]y^{2}=4u^{2}v^{2}[/tex]
are not equivalent; hence your answers may contain false solutions; ie, you must substitute what you get into your original system in order to determine the actual solutions.
 
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Thanks arildno! I'll try your method; it looks familiar because the prof also mentioned something about a ± popping up in the problem.
 
Good luck, arunma!
However, if you've learned about complex exponentials, it is a quite instructive additional exercise to discover the equivalence of Tide's and my own approach..
 

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