I am Completely Clueless in Calculus

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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving logarithmic identities and trigonometric functions. Participants explore how to prove or disprove the equality of two expressions involving the natural logarithm of sine and a transformation of cosine.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to start solving the logarithmic equation involving sine and cosine.
  • Another participant suggests applying logarithmic properties and looking up half-angle identities to simplify the expression.
  • A different participant provides a step-by-step solution, indicating that the expressions are not equal unless a typographical error is present in the original problem.
  • Some participants agree that the equality may be incorrect and suggest that the original problem might have intended to use ln|sin^2(x)| instead.

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Participants generally agree that there may be an error in the original equality presented. However, there is no consensus on whether the equality can be proven true or false without further clarification of the problem statement.

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The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding logarithmic identities and trigonometric transformations, but does not resolve the initial confusion about the problem's formulation.

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Students struggling with logarithmic properties, trigonometric identities, or those seeking assistance with calculus homework problems.

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Today i was given some review questions from pre-calc, but i forgot how to even start the problems. One problem looks like this:
ln lsinxl=(ln l1-cos2x)-ln2)


i know that i have to prove that each side is equal, but i don't know where to begin...any suggestions?
 
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[tex]\ln |\sin(x)| = \ln |1-cos2x| - \ln(2)[/tex]

Apply Logarithm properties, (Review them)

[tex]\ln |\sin(x)| = \ln |\frac{1-cos2x}{2}|[/tex]

Here's another hint Look up Half-Angle identities.
 
Cyclovenom said:
[tex]\ln |\sin(x)| = \ln |1-cos2x| - \ln(2)[/tex]

Apply Logarithm properties, (Review them)

[tex]\ln |\sin(x)| = \ln |\frac{1-cos2x}{2}|[/tex]

Here's another hint Look up Half-Angle identities.


mmmm...I love Trig Identities.
 
Greetings friend,

Here is a step by step solution for your inquiry:

ln |sin(x)| = ln | (1-cos2x) / 2 | (after applying necessary log laws)
you raise base e to some exponets:
e^(ln|sin(x)|) = e^(ln|(1-cos2x)/2)
sin(x) = (1-cos2x)/2 (notice 1-cos2x/2 is another way of saying sin^2(x))

so they are not equal... unless you made a type and meant ln|sin^2(x)| originally.
 
PrudensOptimus is correct. There must be something wrong with your equality, unless the question was if you were to prove or disprove it. If the equality should be true, then

[tex] <br /> ln |sin^2 x| = ln | 1 - cos2x | - ln (2)<br /> [/tex]
 
That's for all the help guys!
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jamimi13 said:
That's for all the help guys!
You are all lifesavers!

It's glad to be of help!, and Welcome to PF!, i hope you enjoy your stay :smile:
 
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