How Much Internal Energy Increases in a Damped Oscillating System?

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The discussion revolves around a damped oscillating system involving a spring and two charged particles. The original poster seeks to determine the increase in internal energy of the spring during oscillations, given that the system is isolated and experiences some internal kinetic friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles to relate mechanical energy, thermal energy, and internal energy. They express uncertainty about where to begin their calculations.
  • Some participants suggest finding the spring constant from the forces acting on the spring and applying energy conservation principles, specifically referencing potential energy equations.
  • One participant questions whether substituting the derived spring constant into the potential energy formula is the correct next step.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Guidance has been provided regarding the calculation of the spring constant and the application of energy conservation, though no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

The problem assumes an isolated system and involves considerations of internal energy changes due to damping effects, with specific attention to the final configuration of the spring and the charges.

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A light unstressed spring has length d. Two identical particles, each with charge q, are connected to the opposite ends of the spring. The particles are held stationary a distance d apart and then released at the same time. The system then oscillates on a horizontal frictionless table. The spring has a bit of
internal kinetic friction, so the oscillation is damped. The particles eventually stops vibrating when the distance between them is 3d. Find the increase in internal energy that appears in the spring during the oscillations. Assume that the system of the spring and two charges is isolated.

If the system is isolated, we can assume
[tex]\Delta E_{mec} + \Delta E_{th} + \Delta E_{int} = 0[/tex]
Since friction is negligible, the change in thermal energy can be neglected, so
[tex]\Delta E_{mec} + \Delta E_{int} = 0[/tex]

Now I realize that [tex]W = \Delta E_{mec}[/tex], but where exactly can I start?
 
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First you need to find the spring constant which you can determine from the forces acting on the spring in its final configuration. Then apply energy conservation noting that the potential energy of the spring is [itex]\frac {1}{2} k x^2[/itex] and you can figure out the electrical potential before and after.
 
I got
[tex]F = \frac{q^2}{4\pi \epsilon_{0}(3d)^2} , F = -k(3d)[/tex]

So

[tex]k = -\frac{q^2}{4\pi \epsilon_{0}27d^3}[/tex]

Do I now just sub into

[tex]U = \frac{1}{2}k(3d)^2[/tex] ?
 
Jimi,

I didn't check the details but it looks like you did the right steps!
 

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