Finding q: Balancing Gravitational & Electrostaic Potential Energy

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The discussion revolves around a problem in gravitational and electrostatic potential energy involving two identical steel spheres with mass and charge. The original poster seeks to find the charge q that balances the change in gravitational potential energy with the change in electrostatic potential energy as the distance between the spheres varies.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to equate the formulas for gravitational and electrostatic potential energy to solve for q. Some participants question the relevance of the distance variable r in this context, while others suggest that the relationship between q and r may be more complex than initially thought.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the variables, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the original question or the role of r.

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There seems to be some confusion regarding the implications of changing distance on potential energy and the nature of the "opposite charge" mentioned by the original poster. The participants are navigating these assumptions without arriving at a definitive conclusion.

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Imagine that two identical steel spheres, each having a mass of 1.0 kg, are placed a certain distance apart. They are given an equal charge q such that when the separation between the objects changes, the change in the gravitational potentail energy between the objects is exactly balanced by an opposite charge in the electrostaic potential energy between the objects.
What is q?

I used both formulas; V(r) = +k q1q2/r, and V(r)= -G m1m2/r
I then set the two equal to each other and solved for q.
Should this method yield the correct answer?
thanks
 
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Anyone know what my "r" will be in this case?
 
The best you can get with one equation and two unknowns is a proportionality between the two. Yes that's the way you'd go about solving that problem but q is going to be related to r in some way. Edit I can't believe I didn't see this but r isn't relevant since both forces are inversely proportional to distance. (Not that it makes a difference but I thought your question asked for forces originally).
 
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maybe I should of done the simple algebra first...duh..the r's cancel out
thanks
:redface: i ended up w sq.root of G/k
 
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I don't understand your question. You say that "when the separation between the objects changes" (which I interpret as: when the distance between them changes, i.e. becomes larger or smaller) "the change in the gravitational potentail energy between the objects is exactly balanced by an opposite charge in the electrostaic potential energy between the objects." What opposite charge? Where is it coming from? It is clear that changing r will change the potential energy of the system. Are you asking for the value of q that will make the potential energy of the system is 0?
 
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