Solving the Unsolvable: Two Ball Problem

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The problem involves two balls being thrown from different heights and directions: one thrown downward from a building and the other thrown upward from ground level. The objective is to determine the distance from the bottom where the two balls pass each other, with an initial speed of 25 m/s for both and a height of 210 m for the first ball.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting the distances of the two balls equal to find the point of intersection. There are mentions of using kinematic equations and the need to account for initial conditions and acceleration due to gravity. Some participants question the application of sign conventions and the proper use of the kinematic equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being suggested, including writing position functions and using kinematic equations. Some participants have provided specific equations but express uncertainty about how to incorporate the height of the building and the implications of negative distances.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of an answer sheet provided by a teacher, which indicates a result of -10 m, raising questions about the validity of this outcome. Participants are also navigating the implications of sign conventions in their calculations.

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ive been having difficulty with this problem also:

A ball is thrown downward with an initial speed of 25m/s from the top of a 210 m tall building. At the same time, another ball is thrown upward from ground level with a speed of 25m/s. At what distance from the bottom of the two balls pass each other?

the answer is supposed to be "-10 m so it is illogical."
so far i know that for the first ball Vi=25m/s d=210m a=9.8m/s^2

2nd ball Vi=25n/s d=? a=-9.8m/s^2

are we supposed to set the distance of each of the balls equal?? i really have no idea how to do this :confused:
 
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Write the position as a function of time for each of the balls then set them equal to find the time at which they meet.

I got 18.56 m.
 
Find a equation for each ball in function of distance and equal them.Look up Kinematic Equations for Uniform Acceleration, here the acceleration is Gravity (might want to look up Free Fall, too).
 
so the equation would be (25m/s)(t)+1/2(9.8)t^2=(25m/s)(t)+1/2(-9.8)t^2?
(1st ball and 2nd ball respectively)
what do i do with the 210 m?

btw, my teacher gave us an answer sheet and the answer is -10m
 
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Saiyan... Stick to your Sign Convention... if put down and left is negative and up and right is positive, then this should affect the systems you're studying, i see a positive acceleration for one and a negative for another.
 
I also noticed improper use of the equation.

[tex]Y - Y_{o} = V_{o}t + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

where, Yo, Vo and a is known.
 
that is the equation i used: d=Vi(t)+1/2a(t)^2
 
saiyajin822 said:
that is the equation i used: d=Vi(t)+1/2a(t)^2

For this problem you'll have to use it with Y - Yo.
 
Y-Yo? i only see one y and that's 210m
 

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