## How to find work?

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
"In more than one way, find the loss of energy of the ball as it rolls down the ramp."

If for one method, I use WNon-conservative force = Change in Energy, would the work be by kinetic friction?

If it is, then how would I find the work done by friction (which is the NCF) if I only have the following information:
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Mass of ball = 0.0083 kg

2. Relevant equations
Uk = Ffriction/ Normal
WNCF = Change in energy
N = mg

3. The attempt at a solution
This is where I got stuck - I tried to find Ffriction but I don't have Uk.

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 you don't need to know the coefficient of friction. you just need to know how much work is done by the friction. If you calculate the energy on top of the ramp and at the bottom, you will realise that some of the energy is gone. Where did it go to?

 Quote by kudoushinichi88 you don't need to know the coefficient of friction. you just need to know how much work is done by the friction. If you calculate the energy on top of the ramp and at the bottom, you will realise that some of the energy is gone. Where did it go to?
But if Wfriction = Ffriction (x) and I don't know the force of friction, how do I find it's work?

And it goes to friction, doesn't it? :O