Transitional Equilibrium: Tension

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The problem involves a tight-rope walker carrying a beam across a wire, focusing on calculating the tension in the wire when the walker is at the center. The scenario includes a specific mass and angle, leading to discussions about the forces acting on the wire.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the total weight and its distribution across the wires, questioning the application of trigonometric principles to find the tension. There is a focus on balancing forces and the correct interpretation of how weight is shared between the two sides of the wire.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying errors in reasoning regarding the factor of two in the tension calculation. Some have provided corrective insights, suggesting a need to divide the total weight by two to find the tension in one wire, while others are clarifying the relationship between the forces and the angles involved.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the distribution of weight and the calculation of tension, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and the assumptions made about the forces acting on the wire.

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A 60 kg tight-rope walker carries a long beam with a mass of 30kg across a 10m long wire. When she is at the centre of the wire (i.e. 5 m across) each section of the wire makes an angle of 5 degrees to the horisontal. Calculate the tension in the wire.

This one is not that difficult but a lack a certain part of me to get the answer.

60+30 = 90 which is the combined weight Multiply this by 9.8 and we get the force the combined weight exerts on the wire. This is 882 Newtons. Now, from trigonometry i got the tension in the wire to be (2 * 882)/sin(5degrees) = 20239 Newtons of tension. This is 4 times the correct answer. So i though that maybe half the weight acts on half the wire to 822/sin(5degrees) might be the answer but it would leave you with double the correct answer. Argh.

I need help on this one :)
 
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Each wire supports half of the 90 kg.

The forces acting on one of the wires must be balanced. So, equate the x and y components of the tension T with the gravitational force acting on the tightrope walker (for one wire, 441 N).

It will probably be something like 441 = T sin(5), so solving for T gives T = 5059 N.
 
futz is correct. Why in the world do you have that factor of 2 in
"(2 * 882)/sin(5degrees) "? The total weight is 882 Newtons and, since, each side supports 1/2 of that: you should have divided by 2, not multiplied by 2. That's why your answer is 4 times what it should be.
 
Ok, so my mistake was that i doubled the tension when i shouldn't have, and not divided the weight into halve for the 2 sides.

The main thing i did wrong was not knowing that once you find the tension for the side your working with, you don't double it to get the full tension of the wire.

So the tension on the side we found is the total tension :) if that makes sense to you.
 

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