Naming Li & N Compounds: Li3N Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the naming and chemical composition of the compound lithium nitride (Li3N), focusing on the oxidation states of lithium and nitrogen during the formation of the compound. Participants explore the implications of different oxidation states and the stoichiometry involved in the reaction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to determine the appropriate oxidation state for nitrogen when combining it with lithium, noting that nitrogen can have multiple oxidation states.
  • Another participant states that lithium nitride is formed as Li3N and provides a reaction involving lithium and nitrogen, suggesting that the coefficient (2) in front of Li3N relates to the stoichiometry of the reaction.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the oxidation states of nitrogen, mentioning a range from +5 to -1 and asking how to select the correct one when combining with another element.
  • One participant clarifies that nitrogen typically does not reduce from +5 to -1, asserting that in this context, nitrogen changes from 0 to -3, while lithium is oxidized to +1.
  • A later reply corrects a previous statement regarding the reaction, indicating that the correct representation involves the release of electrons from lithium, but acknowledges the error in the earlier LaTeX representation of the reaction.

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Participants express differing views on the oxidation states of nitrogen and the stoichiometry of the reaction, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about oxidation states and the lack of clarity on the meaning of the coefficient (2) in the reaction. The discussion also reflects some unresolved mathematical steps in the representation of the reaction.

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Hey, I was just wondering about naming this compound

Lithium and Nitrogen. I know Li has a +1 charge but Nitrogen can have a bunch. How do I know what one to pick. Also my teach has this written for the correct answer (2)Li3N... what is that (2) out there for?


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Lithium and nitrogen gives lithium nitride, Li3N. I have no idea what (2) means here, but according to redox chemistry, we can find the required coefficients.

Lithium:from [itex]Li^0[/itex] to [itex]Li^+[/itex]
Nitrogen: from [itex]N_2[/itex] to [itex]N^{3-}[/itex]

[tex]6~Li~+~N_2 \xrightarrow {heat} 2~Li_3N[/tex]

Look for Faraday's technique for synthesizing this compound.
 
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Oh yeah Umm question about this: For instance N have electron charges from +5 - (-1) How do you know what one to write down when combining it with an element.
 
Hello, I don't think nitrogen reduces from 5+ to 1- in any reaction, the most popular oxidation numbers for nitrogen are 5+, 4+, 2+, 1+, 0, and 3-. I may be wrong of course, but at least in your question, nitrogen changes from 0 to 3-; lithium is oxidized to its only oxidation state, 1+.

The order is as follows, first lithium is oxidized and electrons go out from it, and nitrogen gets electrons to reduce. As six electrons are needed to convert N2 to 2N3-, six moles of Li is needed as [itex]6Li \rightarrow 6Li^+~+~e^-[/itex].
 
A false statement about my last post:

My last LateX reaction is wrong, as it should be [itex]6Li \rightarrow 6Li^++6e^-[/itex]. Sorry for seeing this too late.
 

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