Need to determine an angle depending on acceleration

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The discussion revolves around determining the angle of an inclined plane based on the acceleration of an object sliding down it. The original poster has provided specific values for acceleration, mass, and gravitational acceleration, and is seeking assistance in calculating the angle, particularly in light of a hint given by their teacher involving the sine function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the implications of assuming a frictionless inclined plane and the resulting calculations for angle. There are questions about the necessity of including friction in the calculations and the impact of this on the angle derived from the acceleration.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided insights into the relationship between acceleration and angle, with some suggesting that the original poster's calculation may be too simplistic if friction is not considered. There is acknowledgment of the need for additional data to accurately determine the angle if friction is involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the lack of information regarding the coefficient of friction and the experimental setup, which could influence the calculations. The original poster mentions that the experiment involved projectile motion, indicating a specific context for the discussion.

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Hi guys. We did an experience on an inclined plan and I got this acceleration: -0,324 m/s2 . Now all I know is this:

the mass of the object was 552g. g = -9,8 m/s2 and I need to find out what was the angle of the plane. I have to give this tomorrow so I need help on this please.. the teacher gave us a hint with this -gsinx but if I use that it gives me an angle of less than 2degrees.
Can somebody help me on this easy question please?
 
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If the inclined plane was frictionless, then the acceleration the object will experiment will be -gsin(x).
 
You can always tell when people hit vectors in physics. :)

Make a sketch of your inclined plane. What you're trying to do is decompose the vectors into those parallel to and those perpendicular to the plane - which is where your teacher's hint comes in.

If you simply assume that the acceleration was "g sin(x)", then you're assuming that the plane was frictionless. Perhaps this is what was intended, but that seems unlikely to me. You probably need to factor in friction. If this was intended (which would explain why you have the mass), then you'll need a "coefficient of friction" for the plane.

Without knowing more details about your experiment and the point of it, I can't really say anything else. For what it's worth, I get 1.9 degrees ignoring friction.
 
Cyclovenom said:
If the inclined plane was frictionless, then the acceleration the object will experiment will be -gsin(x).

So I was right about the little angle.. but it seems too small. Thanks!
 
Diane_ said:
You can always tell when people hit vectors in physics. :)

I agree Diane, hehehe, as you can see Physics I course it's a shock for most students, i remember when i took Physics I, i had to change my way of solving problems, but in the end it prepared me for the other advanced subjects of my career such as Static, Dynamics, etc..
 
The frictionless calculation tells you a lower limit on the angle.

To get the actual angle, you need, as Diane and cyclo have suggested, to know the force of friction between the block and the incline. To determine the friction between the surfaces you need more data...meaning you could have done more experiments to figure this out. Did you ?
 
Diane_ said:
You can always tell when people hit vectors in physics. :)

Make a sketch of your inclined plane. What you're trying to do is decompose the vectors into those parallel to and those perpendicular to the plane - which is where your teacher's hint comes in.

If you simply assume that the acceleration was "g sin(x)", then you're assuming that the plane was frictionless. Perhaps this is what was intended, but that seems unlikely to me. You probably need to factor in friction. If this was intended (which would explain why you have the mass), then you'll need a "coefficient of friction" for the plane.

Without knowing more details about your experiment and the point of it, I can't really say anything else. For what it's worth, I get 1.9 degrees ignoring friction.

there's no friction. We just did a projectile movement in lab and found its vx, vy, acceleration, etc. Thanks for the help. The answer is 1,9 degres
 

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