Solving the Mystery of Electron-Positron Collision Energy

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The discussion revolves around a problem in relativistic physics concerning the collision of an electron and a positron, both moving at 0.60c. Participants are tasked with determining the energy and momentum of the photons produced from this collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct method for calculating the collision energy, questioning the use of velocities and the frame of reference for the calculations. There are mentions of potential calculation errors and the need to apply relativistic formulas for velocity addition.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants offering corrections and alternative perspectives on the calculations. There is recognition of errors in previous calculations, but no consensus on the final energy value has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the center-of-mass frame for the calculations and the implications of having two photons produced in the collision, which may affect the energy distribution.

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what the !?

ok idk if I am right and the book is wrong but help me out the question is...

An electron moving at a speed 0.60c collides head on witha positron also moving at 0.60c. Determine the energy and momentum of each photon produced in the process.

well this is what I did..
[tex]E = 2\frac{m_ec^2}{ \sqrt{1-\frac{(0.6c)^2}{c^2}}}[/tex]
[tex]E = 255864.36 \ eV = 0.256 \ MeV[/tex]
the book says the energy is E = 0.64 MeV why?

i figured E = m_e c^2 + KE but it my calcs must be off or something i don't understand
 
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you are not using the correct velocity. Since both electrons are moving at .6c you must compute the speed of the collision using the relativistic formula for addition of velocities.
 
Integral: That was my first thought too, but no one said we're supposed to do the calculation in the electron's rest frame. He is doing the calculation in the center-of-mass frame, which is OK.

Phymath: That square root is 0.8, so the quantity you call E (the sum of the two energies), is just 2.5 times the rest mass of the electron, which is 0.511 MeV. So it looks like you just did a very simple calculation error. 2.5 times 0.511 is not 0.25.
 
Wow, that was cool! I had no idea you could do that.
 
i understand the .8 error but still it does not give the correct energy value...
 
Divide it by 2. There are 2 photons. (They must have the same energy because the total momentum is 0 in this frame).
 

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