OUNT OF ENERGY LOST IN COMPTON SCATTERING EXPERIMENT

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The discussion revolves around a Compton scattering experiment involving X-rays, specifically focusing on calculating the incident energy based on a one percent reduction in energy after scattering at a 90-degree angle. Participants are working within the context of quantum mechanics and photon interactions with electrons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the Compton wavelength shift equation and relate energy changes to wavelength changes. Questions arise regarding the correctness of calculations and the interpretation of results, particularly concerning the quadratic equation derived from the energy reduction.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified potential errors in calculations and are exploring alternative methods to relate initial and final energies of the X-rays. There is an acknowledgment of mistakes, and guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between energy and wavelength without leading to quadratic terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are assuming non-relativistic conditions for the electron and are discussing the implications of the scattering angle on the calculations. The problem's constraints include the specific energy reduction percentage and the scattering angle.

Bobster
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Any ideas how to do this question ?

In a Compton type experiment X-rays scattered through 90 degrees suffered one percent reduction in energy.What was the incident energy of the X-rays ? You can assume that the electron coiled non-relativistically.

Any help would be really appreciated ! :smile:

Bob
 
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Oh by the way,i used the equation :


dL=h/mc (1-cos angle)

and i got dL=2.43 E -12

Since the energy reduction is 1 % i did

hc/L-hc/L' =0.01

and L'=L+2.43 E -12

so we end up with a quadratic :

L^2 - (2.43 E -12)L-(4.83 E -35)=0

Solving I got, L= O or -2.43 E -12

Hence incident energy is hc/0 or hc/-2.43 E -12

=> energy =infinity or hc/(-2.43 E -12). :confused:

Now is this total rubbish,or am I getting somewhere ? :bugeye:

Cheers for any help !
Bob
 
I believe you made an error when calculating the final energy (and hence wavelength) of the X-ray. Do it like this. The final energy of the X-ray [tex]E_f = 0.99E_i[/tex] where the i stands for "initial". Now use the Einstein relation for the energy of a photon: [tex]E = \frac{hc}{\lambda}[/tex] to figure out the relationship between the final and initial wavelengths of the X-rays. You shouldn't get any type of quadratic term in [tex]\lambda[/tex]
 
Thanks mate ! that was exactly my mistake.I can't believe I made that error :cry: but oh well !. :rolleyes:

Cheers again !

This world needs more people like :approve: you
 
Bobster said:
Any ideas how to do this question ?

In a Compton type experiment X-rays scattered through 90 degrees suffered one percent reduction in energy.What was the incident energy of the X-rays ? You can assume that the electron coiled non-relativistically.

Any help would be really appreciated ! :smile:

Bob
I think the key is to get the recoil angle of the electron. It is almost 45 degrees ([itex]tan\theta = .99[/itex]). Plug that into the Compton formula and you will get the magnitude of the wavelength change. That change represents a loss of one percent of the original energy.

AM
 

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