How Do You Complete the Square for x^2 + 3x + 4?

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The discussion revolves around the method of completing the square for the quadratic expression x^2 + 3x + 4. Participants explore different approaches to the problem, including the use of fractions and decimals, and clarify the general procedure involved in completing the square.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially attempts to complete the square but struggles with fractions, proposing (x + 3/6)^2 + ?.
  • Another participant provides a completed square form as (x + 1.5)^2 + 1.75, using decimals instead of fractions.
  • A third participant expresses confusion over the preference for fractions in the original problem, suggesting that decimals are equally valid.
  • Another participant explains the general procedure for completing the square, emphasizing the importance of adding and subtracting the same value to maintain equality.
  • A different approach is suggested, where one participant proposes expanding the expression to find coefficients instead of directly completing the square.
  • Some participants acknowledge that the method of completing the square can be straightforward, but there are differing preferences for using fractions versus decimals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of completing the square, but there is disagreement regarding the use of fractions versus decimals, with some preferring one over the other without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the necessity of using fractions, indicating a potential limitation in understanding the flexibility of numerical representation in this context.

Who May Find This Useful

Students learning about quadratic equations and the method of completing the square, particularly those who may struggle with fractions or are exploring different numerical representations.

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Complete the square - Help please :)

Not to good with fractions, so I'm posting this here.


x^2 + 3x +4

Complete the square.

Ill try:

(x + 3/6)^2 + ?

lol best i can do sorry :)

Thanks
 
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iNsChris said:
Not to good with fractions, so I'm posting this here.


x^2 + 3x +4

Complete the square.

Ill try:

(x + 3/6)^2 + ?

lol best i can do sorry :)

Thanks

x^2 + 3x + 4
=> (x + 1.5)^2 +4 - 2.25
=> (x + 1.5)^2 +1.75

There you go.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
yeh i considered decimals but book showed fractions - Cheers mate.
 
iNsChris said:
yeh i considered decimals but book showed fractions - Cheers mate.

What is that supposed to mean? It makes no difference how you express the numbers (every fraction has some decimal representation!), the method of solving the problem is always the same.

[tex]x^2 + 3x +4 = \left(x + \frac{3}{2}\right)^2 + 4 - \left(\frac{3}{2}\right)^2[/tex]

Do you see the general procedure for completing the square? It's always the same. Think about what it means to "complete the square". We want to add 'something' to the expression so that we end up with a perfect square. (and then subtract that same 'something' so that in the end we haven't changed anything). i.e. so that

x^2 + 3x + something + 4 - something

can be expressed using the square of some binomial (ie so that the italicized part is a perfect square):

= (x + ?)^2 +4 - something

Can you see that '?' must be half of 3 in this case? -- because when you expand, you get x^2 + 2?x + ?^2
so (2? = 3)

It follows that 'something' = ?^2 = (3/2)^2 = 9/4

So if you understand and follow this reasoning every single time, completing the square will never be any trouble.


btw last time I checked:

3/2 = 1.5

9/4 = 2.25

:wink:
 
for the function, actually there's an easier way to complete the square, just simply expand it out, what i mean is

[tex]x^3+3x+4=a(x+b)^2+c[/tex]

equate these 2 together, expand out [tex]a(x+b)^2+c[/tex] then compare the coefficients.
 
I believe Chris understands this but thought that he had to use fractions when really decimals were alright.

The completing the square process is simple and he has it but it was a little doubt that needed sorting.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
Bob's right. Fractions always get people. It took me quite a while to get used to them myself.
 

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