Finding a Value of N for a Limit Question: How to Solve |r(x) - 3x/2| < 0.001

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The discussion revolves around finding a value of N that satisfies the limit condition |r(x) - 3x/2| < 0.001 for the function r(x) defined as (3x^2 - Sx - S^2) / (2x^2 + Sx + S^2), where S is an arbitrary number. The limit is considered as x approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the limit of r(x) as x approaches infinity and discuss the implications of this limit on the inequalities that need to be satisfied. There is a focus on deriving conditions for N based on the behavior of the function as x increases.

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Some participants have provided insights into the inequalities that must be satisfied to find N, while others have acknowledged the need to clarify the limit context. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between S, N, and the error margin ε.

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Participants note that the limit is taken as x approaches infinity, and there is mention of specific values for S, such as 9, which may influence the derived inequalities. The discussion includes considerations of the assumptions made regarding the size of x.

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Hi, I have this question that I am not all to sure how to do. Actually, I don't know where to even start.

[itex]\large r(x)=\frac{3x^2 - Sx - S^2}{2x^2 + Sx + S ^ 2}[/itex] Where S represents some abitrary number, let's say 9 for an example.

I found the limit of the function to be [itex]\frac{3x}{2}[/itex]

Then the question asks me to find a value of N that satisfies [itex]|r(x) - \frac{3x}{2}| < 0.001[/itex]

I have no clue of where to start... I have these examples but they didn't help much.
 
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So you're taking the limit of r(x) as x goes to ?

Furthermore, the limit (if it exists) is a number. Your limit has an x-dependence.

I assume you take the limit as x goes to infinity, since that would resemble your answer closely.
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}r(x)=\frac{3}{2}[/tex]

Then I guess you must have [itex]|r(x)-\frac{3}{2}|<0.001[/itex] whenever [itex]x>N[/itex] for some number N.
I think N will depends on S. If S=9, you can check that N=1.000.000 for example easily does the job.
 
Write:
[tex]|r(x)-\frac{3}{2}|=|\frac{3x^{2}-Sx-S^{2}}{2x^{2}+Sx+s^{2}}-3/2\frac{x^{2}+Sx+S^{2}}{x^{2}+Sx+S^{2}}|=[/tex]
[tex]\frac{2}{x^{2}}|\frac{\frac{S}{x}+(\frac{S}{x})^{2}}{1+\frac{1}{2}(\frac{S}{x}+(\frac{S}{x})^{2})}|[/tex]
1. Assume that x is so big that:
[tex]|\frac{S}{x}+(\frac{S}{x})^{2}|<1[/tex]
Hence, we have:
[tex]|r(x)-\frac{3}{2}|\leq\frac{2}{x^{2}}\frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{2}}=(\frac{2}{x})^{2}[/tex]
2. From this it is simple to find a value of x which gives you your estimate.
3. You are not quite finished, though:
Evidently, you must find an N so that BOTH your inequalities,
[tex]|\frac{S}{x}+(\frac{S}{x})^{2}|<1[/tex], [tex](\frac{2}{x})^{2}<\epsilon[/tex]
are fulfilled, i.e, choose your N to be the maximal value of the "separate N's" you derive for each inequality.
Your final N is therefore dependent on both [tex]S,\epsilon[/tex]
([tex]\epsilon[/tex] is the stated error margin)
 
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Thanks, I don't have time to look at this yet. I'm late for class. But the limit was as [itex]x[/itex] approaches [itex]infinity[/itex]. Sorry I should of mentioend that
 
Sure, I know that the limit goes to infinity; the derived inequalities holds for "the absolute value of x greater than some number"
 
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arildno said:
Sure, I know that the limit goes to infinity; the derived inequalities holds for "the absolute value of x greater than some number"


Sorry, the message was for the post prior to yours... the one by... Galileo. Thanks for you help! I still don't have time to look at this... I'll give it a gander when I get home.
 

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