Reaction Quotient and Le Chatelier's Principle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the reaction quotient and Le Chatelier's Principle, specifically focusing on the equilibrium reaction involving Fe^(3+) and SCN^(-) ions. Participants explore the effects of adding KSCN to the system and its implications for the equilibrium position and mass action expression.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Fred asks about the direction of the reaction when extra KSCN is added, seeking clarification on Le Chatelier's Principle.
  • Some participants propose that adding more reactants will shift the equilibrium to the product side, in accordance with Le Chatelier's Principle.
  • Fred later inquires about the mass action expression and which part (numerator or denominator) increases with the addition of KSCN.
  • Participants challenge Fred to consider the implications of adding KSCN in solid form and its effect on the concentrations of the species involved in the equilibrium.
  • There is a suggestion that Fred should demonstrate more effort in solving the problem before receiving direct answers, indicating a focus on learning rather than simply providing solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the specific details of the equilibrium changes or the implications of the mass action expression, as participants express differing views on how to approach the problem and the necessity of demonstrating understanding before receiving help.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on how the addition of KSCN affects the equilibrium constant K and the specific concentrations of the reactants and products, as well as the assumptions regarding the form in which KSCN is added.

Mathman23
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Hi

Here is a reaction: Fe^(3+) + SCN^(-) <---> FeSCN^(2+)

If I add some extra KSCN to the above equilibrium reaction, in which direction will it react according to the law of chemical equilibrium? left or right?

Thanks for Your answer in advance.

Sincerely Yours
Fred
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If i add extra moles at equilibirium the system would tend to move in a direction which would minimise the change. Since more moles of reactants are added at equilibirium the reaction will move to the product side by Le Chatilers principle
 
siddharth said:
If i add extra moles at equilibirium the system would tend to move in a direction which would minimise the change. Since more moles of reactants are added at equilibirium the reaction will move to the product side by Le Chatilers principle


Hi thanks for Your answer.

I have a second question:

The mass action expression for the reaction is:

[itex]K_{c} = \frac{[FeSCN^{2+}]}{[Fe^{3+}][SCN^{-}]}[/itex]

Which of these size increase, then the extra KSCN is added? The numerator or denumerator of the mass action expression?

Sincerely

Fred
 
Mathman, if this is homework (which it looks like), post it in the Homework Help section. Also, the policy here is that we will not give you answers to your homework problems unless you show that you've made some effort towards solving it - which you have not done here.

I suggest you learn how le Chatelier's Principle works - that is going to be an important tool for your understanding chemical equilibria.

Siddharth, it's better to give hints or suggestions than actually feeding the complete answer...especially if the problem looks like it could be homework. That way, you help the poster think about the problem.
 
Mathman23 said:
Hi thanks for Your answer.

I have a second question:

The mass action expression for the reaction is:

[itex]K_{c} = \frac{[FeSCN^{2+}]}{[Fe^{3+}][SCN^{-}]}[/itex]

Which of these size increase, then the extra KSCN is added? The numerator or denumerator of the mass action expression?

Sincerely

Fred

Fred, if you understood why the previous answer was what it should be, you would not have this doubt.

What happens when you add KSCN - in what form will the KSCN be present ? What effect does it have on the concentrations of various species, and hence on the equilibrium between these species ?

What do you know about the equilibrium constant K, and what does it depend on ? Does it, or does it not change with a change in the concentrations (activities) of the reactants/products?
 
Gokul43201 said:
Fred, if you understood why the previous answer was what it should be, you would not have this doubt.

What happens when you add KSCN - in what form will the KSCN be present ? What effect does it have on the concentrations of various species, and hence on the equilibrium between these species ?

What do you know about the equilibrium constant K, and what does it depend on ? Does it, or does it not change with a change in the concentrations (activities) of the reactants/products?

Hi its added in a solid-form.

It increases the concentration of SCN in the denumerator.

/Fred
 

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