How can H-NMR graph peaks be used to determine enol-keto ratio?

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The discussion centers on how to determine the enol and keto content from H-NMR graphs, particularly focusing on the integration of peaks to find the enol-keto ratio. Participants explore various aspects of NMR interpretation, including specific examples and methodologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using peak integration to determine the enol-keto ratio, emphasizing the need to identify which peaks correspond to each tautomer.
  • One participant mentions that during tautomerism, relevant peak intensities diminish due to the interchangeability of structures and recommends using deuterium-exchange to observe this effect.
  • Another participant notes that the chemical shifts of O-H and C-H should be distinct, and the integration of these peaks should correspond to the number of hydrogens in the compound.
  • A participant provides a hypothetical interpretation of the NMR spectrum for 2-acetylcyclohexanone, detailing expected peak assignments for both keto and enol forms and suggesting that integration ratios can be used to determine isomer ratios.
  • Discussion includes the observation that in cyclic compounds, certain peaks may only be present for the keto form, and specific peak integrations can be used to calculate percent composition.
  • One participant expresses satisfaction after understanding the concept, indicating that the process is simpler than initially thought.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the interpretation of NMR spectra and the methods for determining enol-keto ratios. While some agree on the use of peak integration, others raise questions about the specifics of peak assignment and the presence of peaks in cyclic compounds, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the potential complexity of interpreting NMR spectra for cyclic compounds and the limitations of proton NMR in providing satisfactory solutions, suggesting that carbon-13 NMR may offer additional insights.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and researchers interested in organic chemistry, particularly those studying tautomerism and NMR spectroscopy.

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Hi can someone help me on how to determine the enol and keto content from a H-NMR graph ? I know we have to use the integration of the peaks to find the ratio, but I just don't quite get it(like which peaks I should use). It would be great if someone can provide a detailed example.

Thanks
 
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I think when a tautomerism occurs, the relevant peak intensities diminish, since it is shared between two interchangable structures.

I strongly recommend that you use deuterium-exchange method to find out which peak shows this phenomena.

I have no example on hand, but if you find the 1H-NMR spectrum of acetylacetone, maybe we can talk through this one, since this may be a good example of enol-keto tautomerism.
 
I have some experience with these systems. The chemical shift of the O-H versus the C-H should be very different. The integration of these two distinct peaks should total to what you would expect for the number of H's in your compound. If it's a beta-keto ester then this difference in chemical shift will be huge and it should be very easy to assign the peaks.
 
Here is an example I found on the internet with the result. I don't know how they get this result. The product I will be getting to analyze is
2-acetylcyclohexanone, I want to understand the concept before I go ahead and do it.

thank you

file is zipped with a *.jpeg file, no virus.
 

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I presume the logic behind the interpretation of this NMR spectrum is as follows:

  • Start off with keto tautomer first. Assign the peaks; two CH3 groups are identical, so expect a singlet within methyl group's boundary.
  • The CH2 group is an activated one, so expect a singlet again, but at the extreme border of CH2 boundary.
  • So just two peaks will be present for keto tautomer; now let's look at enol derivative.
  • In enol form, methyl groups are identical again, so expect another singlet near keto group's signal.
  • =CH-OH group has characteristic alcohol and methylidene signals, assigning these two is fairly easy, since there are no additional peaks within their boundaries.
  • Now, use integration ratios to find out what the isomer ratio is. The crucial point lies on the ratio between methylidene (=CH-) and methylene (CH2) peak integrations. As you know which signal belongs to which group, devising a ratio is not hard. Should you encounter difficulties, it is a wise choice to study especially 13C-NMR, especially APT-type, in addition.

About your molecule, I have included this attachment. Your molecule has (at least) three tautomers, in which the ordinary diketone has a characteristic triplet with 1H and a dublet of quartet with 2H. The integration of these peaks will be useful in determining tautomer ratios. About the other two, proton nmr will not provide a satisfactory solution, I think. Carbon-13 NMr will be a bit more useful.
 

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Chem_tr has given a nice explanation is his attachment. Note that in a cyclic case (like 2-acetyl cyclohexanone) there won't be a CH peak for the enol form, only for the keto form. The two diagnositic peaks will be the triplet at about 3.5 ppm for the keto CH proton and the singlet somewhere between 10 and 17 ppm for the OH of the enol form. In the cyclic case, the integration of these two peaks should sum to 1. Figuring the percent composition should be pretty simple from there!
 
the integration of these two peaks should sum to 1. Figuring the percent composition should be pretty simple from there!

THANK YOU!
Now I got it
I've spend 3 hours looking all over internet to find out how to calculate enol content from NMR and its so freaking simple!
 
Thank you for posting this! Very helpful
 

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