What is the Calculation for Current in a Circuit with Two Sources of EMF?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the current in a circuit that includes two sources of electromotive force (EMF) and their associated resistances. The original poster describes a circuit configuration with specific values for the EMF sources and resistors but expresses uncertainty about the calculation method for determining the current's magnitude.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss applying the loop rule to analyze the circuit, with suggestions on starting points for calculations. There is mention of treating the EMF sources and resistances as separate components and exploring the relationship between the total EMF and total resistance.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on using the loop rule and suggest a formula for calculating current. There is an exchange of notation preferences for representing EMF, indicating a focus on clarity in communication rather than reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of confidence in their approach and mentions the complexity introduced by having two EMF sources. There is also a discussion about the distinction between ideal and non-ideal sources, which may affect the interpretation of voltage in the circuit.

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I have problem with a circuit. It has two sources of emf, and I'm not sure how to calculate the magnitued of the current in the circuit due to this. Here's what the circuit looks like (R's are resistors, *'s are just for spacing):

|----------+|1|------|
|*************** |
R = 5 Ohms********R = 9 Ohms
|*************** |
|----------+|2|------|

EMF source 1 has resistance: 1.6 Ohm, and is 16 V
EMF source 2 has resistance: 1.4 Ohm, and is 8 V

I tried calculating them both and subtracting one from the other, but I don't know. I know the top one is stronger, so the current is traveling in a counter clockwise manner, but don't know the technique when there are two emf sources for solving the magnitude of the current. Thanks!
Josh
 
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Treat the EMF sources and their resistances as separate components and apply the loop rule from any point on the circuit (I suggest using one of the EMF sources). Remember the current is constant throughout the system:

[tex]16V - IR_1 - IR_2 - 8V - IR_3 - IR_4 = 0[/tex]

I applied the law counterclockwise starting from EMF 1 but like I said you could start from anywhere. Solving for I you obtain the familiar

[tex]I = \frac{\varepsilon_1 - \varepsilon_2}{R_1+R_2+R_3+R_4}[/tex] which looks a lot like

[tex]I = \frac {\sum \varepsilon}{\sum R}[/tex]

Hope this helps. Sorry but I don't know the LaTeX for that pretty little E my physics book uses so I figured lowercase epsilon suffices :)
 
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vsage said:
Hope this helps. Sorry but I don't know the LaTeX for that pretty little E my physics book uses so I figured lowercase epsilon suffices :)

It's still an epsilon and you use \varepsilon.
 
Oh I see...the notation for the EMF's of the sources: try the \mathcal function--it gives you uppercase scripted characters, should you need them:

[tex]\mathcal{E}[/tex]

Sometimes for source voltages we just write [itex]V_s[/itex] instead. But since these are not ideal sources, it's good to distinguish between the EMF, which is defined as the potential difference between the two source terminals when no load is connected, vs. the actual voltage across the source when in this series circuit. If you already knew all of this...sorry to bore you to tears.

I like these scripted letters...hmm...let's see...Laplace Transform:
[tex]\mathcal{L} \{f(t)\}[/tex]

it's cool... :biggrin:
 
I see. Thanks for the info on that. Post has been edited.
 

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