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| Feb22-12, 03:12 PM | #1 |
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not so fast after all
I came here thinking you would already be discussing. It is a just a rumor, but don't we love them ? Let us keep an eye, or an ear, on what will hopefully come out soon.
Error Undoes Faster-Than-Light Neutrino Results |
| Feb22-12, 03:13 PM | #2 |
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We're waiting for a formal announcement (press release) from CERN.
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| Feb22-12, 03:15 PM | #3 |
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| Feb22-12, 03:17 PM | #4 |
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not so fast after all |
| Feb22-12, 03:24 PM | #5 |
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In before the CERN faster then light cover up conspiracy theories.
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| Feb22-12, 03:26 PM | #6 |
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| Feb22-12, 03:28 PM | #7 |
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Tell them a "neutrino walks in bar" joke. Meet somebody who works at CERN.
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| Feb22-12, 04:04 PM | #8 |
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| Feb22-12, 04:16 PM | #9 |
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http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=532620 Just see the last page of the FTL neutrino thread. |
| Feb22-12, 04:19 PM | #10 |
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So my theory that the speed of light is actually d has been exploded?
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| Feb22-12, 04:26 PM | #11 |
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explocec.
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| Feb22-12, 04:27 PM | #12 |
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Since the initial announcement, my bet has been on a detector error. Would this count as a detector error, or some other type of error? I just want to know if I can collect my bets if this ends up being the official explanation.
(Oh, wait, I didn't actually place any cash bets...drat! I guess I don't care then. )
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| Feb22-12, 06:29 PM | #13 |
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There is a good reason that PF has a relatively strict prohibition on overly-speculative posts. |
| Feb22-12, 06:36 PM | #14 |
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Really, the biggest mistake they made was the big press release of the initial report before they went through and double checked all of these systems for errors. On the other hand, it's a good lesson for the public about scientific method and that nothing is a foregone conclusion until it has been checked, checked again, and checked some more. And, even then, it's not a foregone conclusion.
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| Feb22-12, 06:42 PM | #15 |
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I wonder if scientists succumbing to the pressure/temptation to be the first to announce a discovery - or to publish? |
| Feb23-12, 06:20 PM | #16 |
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I am not surprised that the results turned out to be wrong. I have a lot of confidence in our current theories and the results they've been giving.
I am surprised that the error turned out to be something so embarrassingly avoidable. I had assumed that a research team doing experiments like this (that will be scrutinized by the whole world) would be diligent enough to have more than one independent measurement system. I'd think they'd see a discrepancy in their two measurements and quickly get to the root of it. Surely they didn't just trust all their hardware software and processes without checks and balances? I guess the answer is: yes they did and it is commonplace. |
| Feb23-12, 06:32 PM | #17 |
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