Netscape to view internet pages with Java2 applets

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of using Netscape to view internet pages with Java2 applets, particularly in comparison to Internet Explorer (IE) and Firefox. Participants explore issues related to browser compatibility, proxy settings, and the necessity of Java2 support.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports difficulty in accessing internet pages with Netscape while IE works fine, expressing uncertainty about the cause.
  • Another participant expresses a strong negative opinion about IE, suggesting it may interfere with Netscape's internet access.
  • A participant inquires about proxy settings, which may affect Netscape's functionality.
  • It is noted that Firefox works well, raising the question of why Netscape is still needed.
  • Some participants assert that Java is backwards compatible, indicating that a browser capable of reading Java 2 should also read Java 1 applets, but not vice versa.
  • Concerns are raised about the support for Java 2 in IE, with a participant suggesting that Microsoft promotes ActiveX over Java technology.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the distinction between J2SE as a browser plugin and J2SDK as a software development kit, with some uncertainty expressed about the specifics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of Netscape versus Firefox, as well as the implications of Java compatibility. There is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the issues with Netscape.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention proxy settings and the historical context of browser wars, indicating potential limitations in compatibility and support for Java technologies.

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I'm trying to install Netscape to view internet pages with Java2 applets and I have also IE in my computer. The problem with Netscape is that it cannot open any internet page while IE can. I don't have any hint what forbids it to access the Internet?
 
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IE is basically a virus, i wouldn't be surprised if it didnt let netscape use the internet.


the day microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. if i were you i would un install IE
 
T@P, you can't uninstall IE.

ramollari, do you have proxy settings?
 
Yes my PC is behind a proxy firewall, but it should allow the download of html pages. By the way, Firefox Moxilla also works fine.
 
If firefox is working, why use netscape? firefox should be fine.

Of course I'm biased. I love firefox.

And IE is a virus. I hate it.
 
franznietzsche said:
If firefox is working, why use netscape? firefox should be fine.

Of course I'm biased. I love firefox.

And IE is a virus. I hate it.

I need Netscape to view Java 2 applets, not supported by IE and by Firefox either.
 
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Isn't java backwards compatible? I would think.
 
dduardo said:
Isn't java backwards compatible? I would think.
Yes Java is backwards compatible, so if the browser can read Java 2, it can also read Java 1 applets. But the opposite isn't true.
 
And aren't we at J2SE 5.0? So what is the problem?
 
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dduardo said:
And aren't we at J2SE 5.0? So what is the problem?
j2sdk 1.5 I would rather think. j2sdk 1.2 and up is considered as Java 2 because it introduced many extension libraries, such as swing and jce. However there is a browser war and technology war. Microsoft doesn't want to promote the use of Java technology, but ActiveX instead so no version of IE can support Java 2. As far as I know, only Netscape 5.0 and up does. I really have trouble with IE when I try to view some academic demonstration applets written in Java 2.
 
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It was my understanding that J2SE is the browser plugin while J2SDK is the software development kit. All the sdk provides is the libraries and such for java, but not the actual plugin for the browsers. I could be wrong, but try it out anyway.
 
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