Expand & Simplify Binomial (1 + $\sqrt\frac{2}{n-1}$)^n

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The discussion centers around the expansion and simplification of the expression (1 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{n-1}})^n, as well as related inequalities involving n^{\frac{1}{n}}. Participants explore the binomial expansion, the behavior of limits, and the implications of L'Hospital's Rule in proving certain inequalities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to expand and simplify (1 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{n-1}})^n, suggesting it involves a binomial expansion.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the simplification, stating it looks "ugly" due to the radical.
  • A different participant proposes a related inequality, n^{\frac{1}{n}} < 1 + \sqrt{\frac{2}{n-1}}, and seeks a rigorous proof for this statement.
  • One participant suggests using limits and natural logarithms to show that n^{\frac{1}{n}} approaches 1 as n approaches infinity, referencing L'Hospital's Rule.
  • Another participant, unfamiliar with L'Hospital's Rule, questions the solvability of the inequality involving n^{\frac{1}{n}}.
  • Concerns are raised about the case when n=1, indicating potential issues with the proposed inequalities.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the square root in the expansion and seeks clarification on how to handle it.
  • A later post suggests proving that \sqrt{\frac{2}{n-1}} decreases in value slower than n^{\frac{1}{n}} - 1 as n increases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the simplification of the binomial expansion and the validity of the inequalities. There is no consensus on the best approach to prove the inequalities or the behavior of the expressions as n changes.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note specific cases, such as n=1, where the proposed inequalities may not hold. There is also mention of the need for rigorous proofs, indicating that assumptions about the behavior of the functions are not fully resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying binomial expansions, inequalities in calculus, and the behavior of sequences and limits in mathematical analysis.

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How do you expand and simplify [tex](1 + \sqrt\frac{2}{n-1})^n[/tex]?

I know this involves a binomial expansion and I can expand it to look something like

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&0\end{array}\right){\frac{2}{n-1}}^\frac{0}{2} + \left(\begin{array}{c}n&1\end{array}\right){\frac{2}{n-1}}^\frac{1}{2} + ...[/tex]

but how do you simplify this?
 
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Sorry to disappoint you,but apparently u cannot.It looks kinda ugly,but that's how it was supposed to be,since it involved a radical.

Daniel.
 
Hmm. How can I solve the following problem then?

n is a positive integer. Prove that:

[tex]n^\frac{1}{n} < 1 + \sqrt\frac{2}{n-1}[/tex]

I also need to show that [tex]n^\frac{1}{n} \rightarrow 1[/tex] as [tex]n \rightarrow \infty[/tex]. I know this follows logically from the fact that [tex]\frac{1}{n} \rightarrow 0[/tex]as [tex]n \rightarrow \infty[/tex]. Is there a more rigorous way for showing this?

Also, what is the maximum value of [tex]n^\frac{1}{n}[/tex]?
 
Do you know calculus??If u did,then
[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} n^{\frac{1}{n}}=\alpha[/tex](1)
U need to show that \alpha=1.
Take natural logarithm from both sides.Then
[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty} \frac{1}{n}\ln n =\ln\alpha[/tex] (2)

The first limit is zero (you can show that considering the function [\itex] \frac{\ln x}{x} [/itex] and using L'Ho^spital rule.
THerefore [itex]\ln\alpha=0 \Rightarrow \alpha=1[/itex].

Daniel.
 
I've never studied L'Hospital's Rule before (I just finished Grade 10). However, I just looked it up on the internet, and I do understand how it works, but not why it works.

Is this problem solvable?

If n is a positive integer, prove that:
[tex]n^\frac{1}{n} < 1 + \sqrt\frac{2}{n-1}[/tex]
 
recon said:
I've never studied L'Hospital's Rule before (I just finished Grade 10). However, I just looked it up on the internet, and I do understand how it works, but not why it works.
L'Hospitals rule is relatively easy to prove using the definitions of limit and derivative.

Is this problem solvable?

If n is a positive integer, prove that:
[tex]n^\frac{1}{n} < 1 + \sqrt\frac{2}{n-1}[/tex]
If n=1 then there are some problems with this.
For n bigger than 1, you've almost got the proof.

Here's something you might find useful:
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}a&b\end{array}\right) = \frac{a!}{b!(a-b)!}[/tex]
Specifically
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&0\end{array}\right) = 1[/tex]
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&1\end{array}\right) = n[/tex]
and
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&2\end{array}\left) = \frac{(n-1)(n-2)}{2}}[/tex]
 
NateTG said:
If n=1 then there are some problems with this.
For n bigger than 1, you've almost got the proof.

Here's something you might find useful:
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}a&b\end{array}\right) = \frac{a!}{b!(a-b)!}[/tex]
Specifically
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&0\end{array}\right) = 1[/tex]
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&1\end{array}\right) = n[/tex]
and
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}n&2\end{array}\left) = \frac{(n-1)(n-2)}{2}}[/tex]

Do you mean that I have to expand [tex](1 + \sqrt\frac{2}{n-1})^n[/tex]? It's the square root that is confusing me. I can't get rid of it.
 
Putting the question in another form, how do I proof that [tex]\sqrt{\frac{2}{n-1}}[/tex] decreases in value slower than [tex]{n^{{\frac{1}{n}}}-1[/tex] as n increases?
 

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