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Problem of Calculus: derivative, i guess logarithmic differentiation

 
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Jun9-12, 10:16 PM   #1
 

Problem of Calculus: derivative, i guess logarithmic differentiation


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

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2. Relevant equations

My question is how I can solve the equation I gave above.

Should I use logarithmic differentiation?

Because I think that the logarithmic differentiation is used when y = (the equation) but my problem is f (x) = (the equation).

3. The attempt at a solution

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Jun9-12, 10:42 PM   #2
 
try using (f+g)'=f'+g', then use logarithmic differentiation for f and g separately.

In your link to worked example, first option is wrong because you never took derivative in sense of a^(5x-1) for instance. Second option is wrong because Log does not distrubute across addition like that.
Jun10-12, 05:31 PM   #3
 
What about this possible solution to the problem:([itex]x^{(5x-1)}[/itex][itex]\frac{5x-1}{x}[/itex]+5lnx) - 2x[itex]e^{(11-x^2)}[/itex]
Jun10-12, 07:20 PM   #4
 
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Problem of Calculus: derivative, i guess logarithmic differentiation


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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Image of the problem: http://prntscr.com/addkf

2. Relevant equations

My question is how I can solve the equation I gave above.

Should I use logarithmic differentiation?

Because I think that the logarithmic differentiation is used when y = (the equation) but my problem is f (x) = (the equation).

3. The attempt at a solution

Possible solutions: http://prntscr.com/addwu
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What about this possible solution to the problem:([itex]x^{(5x-1)}[/itex][itex]\frac{5x-1}{x}[/itex]+5lnx) - 2x[itex]e^{(11-x^2)}[/itex]
Show us how you got that.

The [itex]\displaystyle -2x\,e^{11-x^2}[/itex] is the derivative of [itex]\displaystyle e^{11-x^2}.[/itex]
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Jun10-12, 10:14 PM   #5
 
I attach the procedure for which i got the result, i need that someone say me if i am right or wrong.

Thanks to all the members that comment in my thread and try to help me.
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Jun10-12, 10:39 PM   #6
 
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I attach the procedure for which i got the result, i need that someone say me if i am right or wrong.

Thanks to all the members that comment in my thread and try to help me.

Yes, that answer looks fine !
Jun12-12, 05:25 PM   #7
 
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So, I gave the x5x-1 term to WolframAlpha to differentiate.

WolframAlpha did not use logarithmic differentiation. Instead, it used the following scheme.
Suppose we have a function that can be expressed in the following way,

[itex]\displaystyle f(x)=g\left(u(x),\,v(x)\right)[/itex]

then the derivative of f(x) can be obtained as follows.

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}f(x)=\frac{d}{dx}g\left(u(x),\,v(x) \right)=\frac{\partial g(u,v)}{\partial u}\frac{d\,u(x)}{dx}+\frac{\partial g(u,v)}{\partial v}\frac{d\,v(x)}{dx}[/itex]
For the case of [itex]\displaystyle f(x)=x^{5x-1}\,,[/itex] we have [itex]\displaystyle g(u,\,v)=u^v\,,[/itex] where [itex]\displaystyle u(x)=x\,,[/itex] and [itex]\displaystyle u(x)=5x-1\,.[/itex]

∂g/∂u treats the function g, as if the base of the expression, in this case x by itself, is the part with the variable, and treats the exponent as being constant, as is the case of a power function.

∂g/∂v treats the exponent of the expression, in this case x by itself, as being the part with the variable, and treats the base as being constant, as is the case of an exponential function.
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